David Bokovoy Issues a Devastating Critique of the Mopologists' "Scholarship"

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:48 pm
DCP and the Mopologists have wasted hundreds of hours trying to dox him. That in itself is more than enough of a reason for Dr. Scratch to not reveal his identity.
No one wants to see Dr. Peterson call up the full might of the Interpreter Whistling and Whittling Brigade. And those Danites who meet at Church HQ need to stay put and work on their Kingdom of Deseret plans.
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Markk wrote:For me seeing some one so hateful to the man, pure hate, and not identifying himself is weak. I respect the heck out of the Paul O's. that go after him (the church) without hiding...
Markk, you appear confused. Whether or not somebody posts under in real life name says nothing about whether they are hateful or not. Two totally different issues. Do you respect Hitler because he spoke under his real name?
You have to admit that Scratch does come off as some kind of sick stalker from a basement somewhere, which is my free country opinion.
No, I don't have to admit that. You can hold the opinion that I have to admit something on your say-so but it's a dumb kind of opinion. Also, Dr. Scratch comes across as a knowledgeable and fair critic to me.
Especially now that DCP is pretty much irrelevant in Mopology. This board is the only thing really keeping him the "apologetic news."
DCP defines Mopologetics now just as he always has. Mopologetics has a reduced place in the Church, but to the extent it exists, he's still the leader. And even if he were totally on his own, people are still allowed to disagree with him and voice their opinions.
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Moksha wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:13 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:48 pm
DCP and the Mopologists have wasted hundreds of hours trying to dox him. That in itself is more than enough of a reason for Dr. Scratch to not reveal his identity.
No one wants to see Dr. Peterson call up the full might of the Interpreter Whistling and Whittling Brigade. And those Danites who meet at Church HQ need to stay put and work on their Kingdom of Deseret plans.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 4:43 pm
Markk wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:42 pm
Especially now that DCP is pretty much irrelevant in Mopology. This board is the only thing really keeping him the "apologetic news."
I think that’s a spot on assessment.
I think it's probably reasonable to say that this board also keeps ticking along because people are interested in what DCP ate last week. ;) well maybe not quite. But a good portion of what I read on here is about DCP.
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IWMP wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:02 am
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 4:43 pm
I think that’s a spot on assessment.
I think it's probably reasonable to say that this board also keeps ticking along because people are interested in what DCP ate last week. ;) well maybe not quite. But a good portion of what I read on here is about DCP.
He's been really boring lately. When we stop talking about him, he makes a troll post saying something inflammatory or over the top to get attention.
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:11 pm
IWMP wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:02 am


I think it's probably reasonable to say that this board also keeps ticking along because people are interested in what DCP ate last week. ;) well maybe not quite. But a good portion of what I read on here is about DCP.
He's been really boring lately. When we stop talking about him, he makes a troll post saying something inflammatory or over the top to get attention.
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drumdude wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:11 pm
IWMP wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:02 am


I think it's probably reasonable to say that this board also keeps ticking along because people are interested in what DCP ate last week. ;) well maybe not quite. But a good portion of what I read on here is about DCP.
He's been really boring lately. When we stop talking about him, he makes a troll post saying something inflammatory or over the top to get attention.
Or he brings up old issues, or--a classic-- telling us about the multiple times per day he receives harassing emails from someone here. Bonus points for saying he might, one day, report the sender to the police. No points for his unwillingness to block said poster, because that would be the obvious solution.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
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Sheesh, Markk. Why are you so angry?

Also, this board has like 30-50 readers. Calm yourself.

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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:57 am
Markk wrote:For me seeing some one so hateful to the man, pure hate, and not identifying himself is weak. I respect the heck out of the Paul O's. that go after him (the church) without hiding...
Markk, you appear confused. Whether or not somebody posts under in real life name says nothing about whether they are hateful or not. Two totally different issues. Do you respect Hitler because he spoke under his real name?
You have to admit that Scratch does come off as some kind of sick stalker from a basement somewhere, which is my free country opinion.
No, I don't have to admit that. You can hold the opinion that I have to admit something on your say-so but it's a dumb kind of opinion. Also, Dr. Scratch comes across as a knowledgeable and fair critic to me.
Especially now that DCP is pretty much irrelevant in Mopology. This board is the only thing really keeping him the "apologetic news."
DCP defines Mopologetics now just as he always has. Mopologetics has a reduced place in the Church, but to the extent it exists, he's still the leader. And even if he were totally on his own, people are still allowed to disagree with him and voice their opinions.
Huh, what I wrote was simple. No confusion. Scratch has been bagging on and calling out DCP with a deep and unfettered passion for what....20 years.

I simply wrote that with that kind of negative zeal and what appears real hate for the guy, he should identify himself and stand up to him. DCP is correct (that is hard to say) that he appears to be a stalker, that is the perception.
Also, Dr. Scratch comes across as a knowledgeable and fair critic to me.
Come on, I stated I agree with most of what Scratch writes, but again it is getting kind of weird in my opinion. Again it's been 20, 30 years?????
DCP defines Mopologetics now just as he always has. Mopologetics has a reduced place in the Church, but to the extent it exists, he's still the leader. And even if he were totally on his own, people are still allowed to disagree with him and voice their opinions.
I disagree....everything has shifted and changed. The new generations have no idea who DCP is, he is hardly relevant. John Dehlin, Reel, RFM etc, vs Midnight Mormon, Jacob Hansen, Rodney Meldrum....etc, define the debates and arguments.

If anything the Midnight Mormons are the new rockstar Mopologists.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:48 pm
Markk,

There is no other person who has gone toe to toe with DCP as much as Dr. Scratch.

Also, Dr. Scratch hasn't really tried that hard to be anonymous. There are several people here and elsewhere who know him in real life. And, it drives DCP crazy that he doesn't know the identity of Dr. Scratch. DCP and the Mopologists have wasted hundreds of hours trying to dox him. That in of itself is more than enough of a reason for Dr. Scratch to not reveal his identity.

Finally, why in the world would any sane person reveal his identity online? We've seen over and over the Mopologists contact employers or academic advisors in an attempt to destroy the careers or academic reputation of anyone they perceive as an enemy.

Mopologists/DCP are weird and unhinged.
There is no other person who has gone toe to toe with DCP as much as Dr. Scratch.
Yes I agree
Also, Dr. Scratch hasn't really tried that hard to be anonymous. There are several people here and elsewhere who know him in real life. And, it drives DCP crazy that he doesn't know the identity of Dr. Scratch. DCP and the Mopologists have wasted hundreds of hours trying to dox him. That in of itself is more than enough of a reason for Dr. Scratch to not reveal his identity.
So it is not so much about the apologetic, but just the badgering and stalking?
Finally, why in the world would any sane person reveal his identity online? We've seen over and over the Mopologists contact employers or academic advisors in an attempt to destroy the careers or academic reputation of anyone they perceive as an enemy.
LoL why would any sane person privately stalk some one for 20 year or more? Why would any sane person post on this board for as long as we have?

I think we all have a few screws loose in that regard.

But Paul O, Kerry, RFM and others have done okay and are no more insane that you and I.

Heck if Scratch came clean and started a podcast that would be awesome and a instant following, and he could make some beer money on the side. LOL that would be classic, sane or insane I would watch it.

Take care
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