Is it so hard to just admit that Will was being punished for offending the MDB hagarchy?
Regards, Pahoran
Why should the Maxwell Institute want to do that?
[Is 'hagarchy' a word of Pahoran's coining? It seems to be based on an unpleasant and hostile way of describing elderly women. What a surprise!]
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
And now: this derail about Will Schryver has gone on long enough. It's time for it to end.
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Oh please don't go before you have answered this question that arose from your OP:
Chap wrote:
Pahoran wrote:In the meantime, I have a question; two, actually:
Who was the MDB moderator (or "upper echelon someone" ) who offered drugs for sexual favours? And who orchestrated the cover-up?
Regards, Pahoran
Dunno. You tell us.
Nobody has ever offered me drugs for sexual favors, on this board or in real life. I have never offered anyone drugs for sexual favors, on this board or in real life.
I have never, ever, heard any rumors that anyone did anything of the kind in association with activities on this board. I think you will get that answer from pretty well every other poster here, and it would be sincere.
So unless you are going to play the wenglund 'You all have to deny doing anything bad before I say anything' game (yawn ...), how about cutting to the chase and telling us all:
1. What exactly it is that you believe happened on this board, and when.
2. What grounds you have for thinking that such a thing occurred.
3, What relevance the alleged event has to discussions about Mormonism. We never, after all, said that the posters are perfect, to coin a phrase.
Otherwise people might think you were just passing on malicious gossip. Don't you think you should avoid the appearance of evil here? The testimonies of innocent bystanders may be damaged otherwise.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
beastie wrote:If you [Pahoran] would like to discuss ideas and events, please start doing so yourself. In the many years I've known you online, you are one of the worst offenders as far as focusing on personality and character rather than issues.
I thought he invented it.
The person who is certain and who claims divine warrant for his certainty belongs now to the infancy of our species. Christopher Hitchens
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. Frater
beastie wrote:If you [Pahoran] would like to discuss ideas and events, please start doing so yourself. In the many years I've known you online, you are one of the worst offenders as far as focusing on personality and character rather than issues.
I thought he invented it.
Even in the process of shifting blame, the lovely ladies did exactly that for which they are shifting the blame. They really, really can't help themselves.
Nor, evidently, can I--though at least I am capable of admitting it to myself.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
"Why should I care about being consistent?" --Mister Scratch (MD, '08)
wenglund wrote:Even in the process of shifting blame, the lovely ladies did exactly that for which they are shifting the blame. They really, really can't help themselves.
Nor, evidently, can I--though at least I am capable of admitting it to myself.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Shift blame of what? Pahoran keeps preaching at us to focus on ideas and events, and avoid personal attacks. Yet he's never been able to follow his own advice.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
wenglund wrote:Even in the process of shifting blame, the lovely ladies did exactly that for which they are shifting the blame. They really, really can't help themselves.
Nor, evidently, can I--though at least I am capable of admitting it to myself.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Shift blame of what? Pahoran keeps preaching at us to focus on ideas and events, and avoid personal attacks. Yet he's never been able to follow his own advice.
Witness the dog-pile thread Pahoran started to display the follies and peccadilloes of -- umm, no, that doesn't work.
How about the time Pahoran invaded a thread in which he had not previously participated in order to try to embarrass someone over something they'd written in another forum years ago -- now let's see, what were we talking about again?
Pahoran wrote: Evidently, here in a forum whose sole reason for existence is "freedom of speech," the muzzling of a Mormon apologist for reasons entirely unrelated to the quality and content of his apologetics is a worthy goal, and its accomplishment is an achievement to be celebrated.
Isn't that right?
No, that is not right. Will is not muzzled here. He is not banned, is not restrained in any way.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Pahoran wrote: Witness the dog-pile thread Pahoran started to display the follies and peccadilloes of -- umm, no, that doesn't work.
How about the time Pahoran invaded a thread in which he had not previously participated in order to try to embarrass someone over something they'd written in another forum years ago -- now let's see, what were we talking about again?
Regards, Pahoran
Boy, did that ever get your goat.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.