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Themis wrote: I would not think you had to be living back then in order to have a view on the subject.


Themis, you continue to miss the mark.

Of course I can have a view on the subject. I can have a view on any subject. I can have a view on the creation of the Universe, or the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

I cannot have an insider's view on the creation of the Universe -- I wasn't there.
I cannot have an insider's view of the signing of the Declaration of Independence -- I wasn't there.
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Themis wrote: I would not think you had to be living back then in order to have a view on the subject.


Themis, you continue to miss the mark.

Of course I can have a view on the subject. I can have a view on any subject. I can have a view on the creation of the Universe, or the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

I cannot have an insider's view on the creation of the Universe -- I wasn't there.
I cannot have an insider's view of the signing of the Declaration of Independence -- I wasn't there.


Simon, if you can't know whether or not you're holding an apple, how can you know you weren't there?
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Themis wrote: I would not think you had to be living back then in order to have a view on the subject.


Themis, you continue to miss the mark.

Of course I can have a view on the subject. I can have a view on any subject. I can have a view on the creation of the Universe, or the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

I cannot have an insider's view on the creation of the Universe -- I wasn't there.
I cannot have an insider's view of the signing of the Declaration of Independence -- I wasn't there.


It must be frustrating for you.
Weeks into a thread about the factual content of a book and you still haven't got over the title.
Simon, have you actually read the book? No? That figures...
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Themis wrote:And he continues with this stupidity. LOL


Let me put this in perspective:

Would I be telling the truth if I wrote a book entitled:

"An Insider's View of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence?"

I am an American, after all.


But you didn't see the extended title:)

An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins from Someone Who Taught It for Thirty-Five Years: A Discussion of Subjects Other Insiders Wouldn’t Let Me Teach
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Themis, you continue to miss the mark.

Of course I can have a view on the subject. I can have a view on any subject. I can have a view on the creation of the Universe, or the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

I cannot have an insider's view on the creation of the Universe -- I wasn't there.
I cannot have an insider's view of the signing of the Declaration of Independence -- I wasn't there.


You can have an insiders view. You just have to look at what one is referring to as insider. Since these events happened long before anyone alive could have been their personally insider obviously must not mean they were part of some group back then. But you continue to want to play stupid, but I have seen you do this on other subjects.
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_Simon Belmont

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Dan Vogel wrote:
But you didn't see the extended title:)

An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins from Someone Who Taught It for Thirty-Five Years: A Discussion of Subjects Other Insiders Wouldn’t Let Me Teach



Oh!

Palmer has a point, then.

That title would have been appropriate :)
_Simon Belmont

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Themis wrote:
You can have an insiders view. You just have to look at what one is referring to as insider. Since these events happened long before anyone alive could have been their personally insider obviously must not mean they were part of some group back then. But you continue to want to play stupid, but I have seen you do this on other subjects.


That's just the point, Themis. No one alive today can rightly have an insider's view of Mormon origins.

They can have A Former CES Employee's View of Mormon Origins
They can have Grand Palmer's View of Mormon Origins
They can have A Homeless Man's View of Mormon Origins
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smion wrote: "Of course I can have a view on the subject. I can have a view on any subject."
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too bad none of them are 'intelligent views'.
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Themis wrote:
You can have an insiders view. You just have to look at what one is referring to as insider. Since these events happened long before anyone alive could have been their personally insider obviously must not mean they were part of some group back then. But you continue to want to play stupid, but I have seen you do this on other subjects.


That's just the point, Themis. No one alive today can rightly have an insider's view of Mormon origins.

They can have A Former CES Employee's View of Mormon Origins
They can have Grand Palmer's View of Mormon Origins
They can have A Homeless Man's View of Mormon Origins


That’s the literal interpretation of the title? Since that doesn’t work, perhaps there are other less literal interpretations which, as it turns out, a lot of non-apologetic people seem to understand anyway.
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_Simon Belmont

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Dan Vogel wrote:
That’s the literal interpretation of the title? Since that doesn’t work, perhaps there are other less literal interpretations which, as it turns out, a lot of non-apologetic people seem to understand anyway.


The problem is non thinking people might, at first glance, believe that the title is accurate.

It's not.
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