Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin

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jpatterson, are you in the "know" of this new claim against JD? or is it just the type of behavior that you can believe? is JD made of teflon? nothing seems to stick. It has been some time since you worked for JD and MS, I am sure a ton has changed (though maybe not). If your intentions are just and true, change your online behavior. The name calling is tiring and borderline trolling at this point. If Consig is overstating the evidence, prove it.
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consiglieri wrote:
Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:49 pm
I am hoping J. Patterson has made some progress in sorting through all the emails and texts so he can present them to us.

Like he promised over a year and a half ago…
I just visited her mormonrosebud site. She now claims to have sent the evidence to various organizations because it requires professional redacting. One of the orgs is Truth and Transparency Foundation, which closed shop before she made her announcement.
March 13, 2022

I have decided that professionals are most qualified to do the redacting. Documents have been provided to the Truth and Transparency Foundation, the Salt Lake Tribune and others. I have given all parties my permission to release everything as long as all potentially vulnerable parties are protected through thorough redacting.

I consider my responsibility to the community to provide documents to be complete. John Dehlin is the Mormon community’s problem more than my problem at this point. I no longer spend time with Mormons or exMormons and do not feel that the Mormon communities are my communities or my problem anymore.

That said, I’ll find a great way to simply tell this incredibly interesting and complex story. It’s a story of financial and sexual exploitation of a woman — a Mormon tale as old as time.

Best,

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I just visited her mormonrosebud site. She now claims to have sent the evidence to various organizations because it requires professional redacting. One of the orgs is Truth and Transparency Foundation, which closed shop before she made her announcement.
Wow, the lunacy continues unabated.

How people miss the fact that this is lunacy is what is truly remarkable.

jpatterson just simps on for Rosebud and her ilk.
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master_dc wrote:
Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:58 pm

I just visited her mormonrosebud site. She now claims to have sent the evidence to various organizations because it requires professional redacting. One of the orgs is Truth and Transparency Foundation, which closed shop before she made her announcement.
No that's not correct.
[Rosebud]March 13, 2022

I have decided that professionals are most qualified to do the redacting. Documents have been provided to the Truth and Transparency Foundation, the Salt Lake Tribune and others....
Truth & Transparency

Founded in December 2016 and ceasing operations in April 2022...
https://www.truthandtransparency.org/
I also think Rosebud is crazy crazy, but let's keep the facts straight.
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Hmmm . . .
However, at the beginning of 2020, while trying to secure funding and ensure the longterm success of the newsroom, Truth & Transparency was sued by Watch Tower and forced to settle, resulting in the removal of all documents owned by the Jehovah's Witnesses. After the financial blow, along with personal and familial hardships experienced by both McKnight and Dodge during the COVID-19 pandemic, Truth & Transparency became dormant for nearly two years.

In April 2020, Truth & Transparency announced their intentions to cease operations after the release of one last news story, the results of a 2020 investigation put on hold due to the lawsuit. Both McKnight and Dodge hope to continue their journalistic endeavors on a freelance basis going forward.
If TTF announced that it would be doing one last thing in April 2020, why is it that Rosebud was sending them stuff in March of 2022?

See https://www.truthandtransparency.org/about/index.html

My guess is that she didn't send them anything or emailed it without checking to see that they were still in operation. Maybe she wanted to broadcast that she did so for the purposes of keeping up the appearance of continuing the fight. That, or TTF is not being so true or transparent in its own account of the state of its operations in March of 2022.
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Let's review:

Jenn Kamp's claim is that she was threatened, intimidated and harassed by John while trying to perform her duties as an Open Stories Foundation employee.

We know that Rosebud's claim is that she was threatened, intimidated and harassed by John while trying to perform her duties as an Open Stories Foundation employee.

We know that Amy Grubbs' claim is that she was threatened, intimidated and harassed by John while trying to perform her duties as an Open Stories Foundation employee.

I have personally spoken to two other anonymous former employees, one of whom was not threatened, intimidated or harassed by John but witnessed said threatening, intimidating and harassing behavior. He believes he wasn't treated that way because he is a man, not a woman.

We know that Kristy Money's claim is that she was treated unequally as a podcaster.

We know that there are 15+ other women who were either directly impacted by or witnessed John's threatening, intimidating or harassing behavior.

We know that consiglieri is personal friends with John Dehlin and has made it his mission to clear John's name through any way possible. We also know that consig receives substantial material benefits through this friendship.

We know that John has utilized a very small, very loyal board of directors since the time Amy Grubbs was fired because several board members resigned due to John's behavior.

We know that almost the entire Open Stories Foundation board resigned immediately after the Rosebud incident, many of them because of John's behavior.
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jpatterson wrote:
Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:18 pm
Let's review:

Jenn Kamp's claim is that she was threatened, intimidated and harassed by John while trying to perform her duties as an Open Stories Foundation employee.

We know that Rosebud's claim is that she was threatened, intimidated and harassed by John while trying to perform her duties as an Open Stories Foundation employee.

We know that Amy Grubbs' claim is that she was threatened, intimidated and harassed by John while trying to perform her duties as an Open Stories Foundation employee.

I have personally spoken to two other anonymous former employees, one of whom was not threatened, intimidated or harassed by John but witnessed said threatening, intimidating and harassing behavior. He believes he wasn't treated that way because he is not a woman.

We know that Kristy Money's claim is that she was treated unequally as a podcaster.

We know that there are 15+ other women who were either directly impacted by or witnessed John's threatening, intimidating or harassing behavior.

We know that consiglieri is personal friends with John Dehlin and has made it his mission to clear John's name through any way possible. We also know that consig receives substantial material benefits through this friendship.

We know that John has utilized a very small, very loyal board of directors since the time Amy Grubbs was fired because several board members resigned due to John's behavior.

We know that almost the entire Open Stories Foundation board resigned immediately after the Rosebud incident, many of them because of John's behavior.
Do you have any of the resigning board members view in writing or do you assume they resigned due to John's behavior?

he seems to have at least mistreated some women who have worked for him. That I don't think is all that questionable. What that means is really hard to say. He got rude with them? He was short with them? The words "threatened, intimidated and harassed" are a bit too vague to make much of them. Rosebud's story is basically all documented and many people would disagree that "threatened, intimidated and harassed' accurately describes the situation, while some of us have said "harassed" can be said to fit.

Jpatterson much of what you type is just more of the same empty angry sounding accusation. I don't think this helps us clear anything up.
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master_dc wrote:
Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:55 pm
jpatterson, are you in the "know" of this new claim against John Dehlin? or is it just the type of behavior that you can believe? is John Dehlin made of teflon? nothing seems to stick. It has been some time since you worked for John Dehlin and MS, I am sure a ton has changed (though maybe not). If your intentions are just and true, change your online behavior. The name calling is tiring and borderline trolling at this point. If Consig is overstating the evidence, prove it.
I am in the "know." It also follows a familiar pattern.

John runs a small non-profit that is big enough to make him a living, but small enough that federal and state regulators cannot be bothered to take action.

I only troll consig because he is a genuinely disgusting human being. Like, honestly.
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OK. Now show me one case where we can be sure, based on the evidence, that John did something illegal or at least altogether unconscionable.

I get that he is a crap boss.

OK.

Maybe he is kinda sexist.

I dunno.

But I am not going to conclude based on a list cobbled together and padded with dubious claims that JD should be out of business because you don't like him.
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jpatterson wrote:
Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:24 pm
I only troll consig because he is a genuinely disgusting human being. Like, honestly.
We didn't need to be told that all of this is tainted by your personal animus toward certain other people.

But thanks all the same.
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