'Now if I would take the position of a critic, I would need to question fanny's reason for bedding Joseph Smith. Was she a loose woman? Was she a slut? Was she sex hungry for a sixteen year old? For after all it takes two to tango and she could have said no."
DUDE - HAVE YOU NO DIGNITY.
He has no problem with that. This is what he has a problem with:
'Now if I would take the position of a critic, I would need to question Joseph's reason for bedding Fanny. Was he a loose man? Was he a slut? Was he sex hungry for a sixteen year old? For after all it takes two to tango and he could have said no."
'Now if I would take the position of a critic, I would need to question fanny's reason for bedding Joseph Smith. Was she a loose woman? Was she a slut? Was she sex hungry for a sixteen year old? For after all it takes two to tango and she could have said no."
DUDE - HAVE YOU NO DIGNITY.
I am just saying that no one blames fanny. Now if one blames Joseph Smith, one should also blame fanny. How would we know that fanny was an innocent person in all this? Maybe she was a hot tomale who had a great sexual appetite. For after all she and her husband had many children which would imply that she could have enjoyed sex. Why only blame Joseph? Young woman of 16 were quite mature back then.
Now of course, I don't think that fanny was a slut. But if I were a critic, I would need to look into it because I would need to believe that not all was on the up and up.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Ray A wrote:He has no problem with that. This is what he has a problem with:
'Now if I would take the position of a critic, I would need to question Joseph's reason for bedding Fanny. Was he a loose man? Was he a slut? Was he sex hungry for a sixteen year old? For after all it takes two to tango and he could have said no."
Was is fanny always looked upon as the innocent party? Because of age? She was no older than Tracey Lords, the porn star who was 16 when she entered the porn business pretending to be 18.
I am just saying that she could also be responsible for what happened, if what happened is as the critics claim.
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I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
He wouldn't be the first married man to be tempted by a young woman. Here was Joseph, a married man and yet, a prophet of god. And here we have fanny attracted to Joseph. And the rest is history.
Now of course, I am taking a critics point of view. I don't think that fanny was a ho. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was sex hungry. It was all on the up and up.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote: 'Now if I would take the position of a critic, I would need to question Joseph's reason for bedding Fanny. Was he a loose man? Was he a slut? Was he sex hungry for a sixteen year old? For after all it takes two to tango and he could have said no."
Was is fanny always looked upon as the innocent party? Because of age? She was no older than Tracey Lords, the porn star who was 16 when she entered the porn business pretending to be 18.
I am just saying that she could also be responsible for what happened, if what happened is as the critics claim.
why me,
you are really embarassing yourself with this argument. I hope you are joking around.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
why me wrote:Was his fanny always looked upon as the innocent party? Because of age? She was no older than Tracey Lords, the porn star who was 16 when she entered the porn business pretending to be 18.
I am just saying that she could also be responsible for what happened, if what happened is as the critics claim.
These are some very nice comparisons that make Joseph look just terrific. Porn star material plural wives. Decent women would've course have rejected him, going by your analogy. Didn't you previously argue that sex had little to do with polygamy? You have become so desperate that you're dragging a 16 year old into maturity and responsibility to absolve a 30 year old man.
karl61 wrote:JUST TAKE YOUR LUMPS AND QUIT FOR THE DAY.
Are you a defender of fanny's honor? How do you know that fanny was not physically attracted to Joseph Smith and welcomed a sexual encounter? How do you know that she did not tempt Joseph? You don't know. Critics always blame Joseph and see the women as victims. But...this would not and could not be always true. There might have been some hot and horny women back then around Joseph. A man who had power would certainly attract the ladies, as it does today
But I see nothing wrong with the relationship between Joe and fanny and believe it to be on the up and up.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith