Wade Has Been Reinstated at MA&D

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wenglund wrote:Now that the self-deluding speculations of the jealous wound-likers has somewhat past its feverish pitch, perhaps now is the time to disclose the true facts (not to be confused with with Scratch's insipid imaginings). It is doubtful that they will be believed sinse they may detract rather than feed the dysfunctional obsession that some have respectively with Juliann and me. But, here it is anyway,

a while back (I don't exactly recall when, but it seems like about 6 months or so ago), I started posting again at ZLMB, and happened to comment on a thread in which people were griping and complaining about being banned at FAIR and the alleged bias against critics on that basis, that I, as an LDS apologist, had been previously banned from ZLMB, and was currently banned from FAIR.

Not long thereafter, I received an email from one of the FAIR moderators (no, not Juliann) telling me that I hadn't actually been banned, but temporarily queued, and that I could now post there. And, even though I wasn't all that inclinded to post at FAIR (thinking that my new focus on bigotry would not fit there, since that was the reason I was banned to begin with), I thought I would check to see if I could post. I found that while I could view the treads, I was unable to post--I kept getting messages indicating that I wasn't permitted that function). So, I sent a reply back to the moderator to that affect. I recieved no response to my reply, and continued unable to post. I figured this meant that at least one moderator didn't think I was banned, but other did.

Anyway, several weeks ago, and a few days prior to emailing Juliann with the question I had on behalf of myself, Beastie, and Scratch, she emailed me in response to learning what I had said on KG's board and here about being banned at FAIR, and reiterated what the previous moderator had said--i.e. that I hadn't been banned, but temporarily queued, and was now able to post. I explained to her what had previously happened and why I thought I was banned, and she was as perplexed as I was as to why I was unable to post at FAIR. Again, I had little interest in posting at FAIR at the time, and informed her of that and why, and didn't even check to see if I could post--that is until today. For about an hour or so this afternoon, I was unable to access this board, and to releave my own boredom, I ventured to MAD, and attempted a test and see if I could now post under the new management. To my surprise (and apparently to the amazement of some of my stalkers here), I was able to post.

As for the email interactions between Juliann and I, there have been no more than three nominal exchanges which amounted to nothing more than what I said above, her cryptically answering my question, a brief expression of amusement that I would have the patience and/or desire to post here, and short notice of the new thread she recently started at MAD.

That's it.

Now that you know the truth, don't you feel like complete fools for what you delusionaly imagined? (Of course you don't. You won't for a second believe what I said over what you have imagined. Such is the nature of...well, you.)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Thanks for clearing this up, Wade. But something is amiss in your story. I clearly saw, when reading your old posts, that you were listed as "banned." Did I misread the postings? Or have the moderators been pulling your leg? Moreover, if you were never banned, this proves what I said earlier: your lectures to everyone about people other than critics being banned has turned out to be a total crock. If you were told, six months ago, that you weren't technically "banned," then your comments to Kevin and myself over on MTT were dishonest. You misrepresented yourself, Wade. Not very nice.
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Wade is incapable of staying where he is not “special”. I remember his exit from this forum not too long ago. His disorder compels him to seek, as the good doctor posits, the limelight. I see that he has indeed returned. Here’s why:

The "Limelight Persona" is surrounded by "Shade Personas". The latter are potential personas, ready to surface as soon as the narcissist needs them. Their emergence depends on their usefulness. An old persona might be rendered useless or less useful by a confluence of events. The narcissist is in the habit of constantly and erratically changing his circumstances. He switches between jobs, vocations, marriages, "friendships", countries, residences, lovers, and even enemies with startling and difficult to follow swiftness. He is a machine whose sole aim is to optimise its input, rather than its output - the input of Narcissistic Supply. To achieve its goal, this machine stops at nothing, and does not hesitate to alter itself beyond recognition. To achieve ego-syntony (to feel good despite all these upheavals) - the narcissist employs the twin mechanism of idealisation and devaluation. The first mechanism is intended to help him to tenaciously attach to his new-found source of supply - the second to detach from it, once its usefulness has been exhausted.

This is why and how the narcissist is able to pick up where he left off so easily. Sometimes a narcissist returns to haunt an old or defunct PNS (Pathological Narcissistic Space, the hunting grounds of the narcissist). This happens when a narcissist can no longer occupy - physically or emotionally - his current PNS. A narcissist who is imprisoned or exiled is a good (though rare) example. Once imprisoned or exiled, the narcissist can no longer rely on obtaining Narcissistic Supply from his old sources. He has to reinvent and reshape a new PNS. In his new country, for instance, he would try out a few personas in his wardrobe until he finds the one that provides him with the best results. But if the narcissist were to return to his previous PNS (his country) - he would have no difficulty in adjusting. He would immediately assume his old persona and begin to extract Narcissistic Supply from his old sources. The personas of the narcissist, in other words, bond with his respective PNSs. These couplets are both interchangeable and inseparable in the narcissist's mind. Every time he moves - the narcissist changes the "Narcissistic Definition Couplet": his PNS and the persona attached thereto.


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GIMR wrote:
moksha wrote:He has perhaps proven himself worthy of MAD acceptance by his conduct on this forum.


Amen, Moksha my dear. I kind of hope Loran will follow him over there, if he isn't king of the hill over there already. I think we've had enough of tweedle-dick and tweedle-dumbass for a while.

GIMR, if all defenders of the Church were to flee, then this board would become much like the View from the Foyer, with VegasRefugee taking on the part of Scottishboy. Posting would be much more sporadic - sort of like understand's or Kevin's boards.
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Mister Scratch wrote: Thanks for clearing this up, Wade. But something is amiss in your story. I clearly saw, when reading your old posts, that you were listed as "banned." Did I misread the postings? Or have the moderators been pulling your leg? Moreover, if you were never banned, this proves what I said earlier: your lectures to everyone about people other than critics being banned has turned out to be a total crock. If you were told, six months ago, that you weren't technically "banned," then your comments to Kevin and myself over on MTT were dishonest. You misrepresented yourself, Wade. Not very nice.


I held out no hope that you would correctly understand things. And, so, I wasn't disappointed when you didn't (actually, it fully expected and quite predictable). I am fine with leaving you with your misperceptions, particularly since your mind is closed to change anyway. You, like many of your fellow teeth-gnashers, need to view the opposition as a crock and dishonest. It is your dillusional way of protecting your unwittingly dysfunctional self-perception. Again, enjoy the fog.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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wenglund wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote: Thanks for clearing this up, Wade. But something is amiss in your story. I clearly saw, when reading your old posts, that you were listed as "banned." Did I misread the postings? Or have the moderators been pulling your leg? Moreover, if you were never banned, this proves what I said earlier: your lectures to everyone about people other than critics being banned has turned out to be a total crock. If you were told, six months ago, that you weren't technically "banned," then your comments to Kevin and myself over on MTT were dishonest. You misrepresented yourself, Wade. Not very nice.


I held out no hope that you would correctly understand things. And, so, I wasn't disappointed when you didn't (actually, it fully expected and quite predictable). I am fine with leaving you with your misperceptions, particularly since your mind is closed to change anyway. You, like many of your fellow teeth-gnashers, need to view the opposition as a crock and dishonest. It is your dillusional way of protecting your unwittingly dysfunctional self-perception. Again, enjoy the fog.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


But you *were* dishonest, Wade! Why not set a good example by apologizing? Do you want to try and explain how what you did was perfectly kosher, out in the open, and straightforward?
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Don't hold your breathe MS
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........
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Draig Goch wrote:Wade is incapable of staying where he is not “special”. I remember his exit from this forum not too long ago. His disorder compels him to seek, as the good doctor posits, the limelight. I see that he has indeed returned. Here’s why:

The "Limelight Persona" is surrounded by "Shade Personas". The latter are potential personas, ready to surface as soon as the narcissist needs them. Their emergence depends on their usefulness. An old persona might be rendered useless or less useful by a confluence of events. The narcissist is in the habit of constantly and erratically changing his circumstances. He switches between jobs, vocations, marriages, "friendships", countries, residences, lovers, and even enemies with startling and difficult to follow swiftness. He is a machine whose sole aim is to optimise its input, rather than its output - the input of Narcissistic Supply. To achieve its goal, this machine stops at nothing, and does not hesitate to alter itself beyond recognition. To achieve ego-syntony (to feel good despite all these upheavals) - the narcissist employs the twin mechanism of idealisation and devaluation. The first mechanism is intended to help him to tenaciously attach to his new-found source of supply - the second to detach from it, once its usefulness has been exhausted.

This is why and how the narcissist is able to pick up where he left off so easily. Sometimes a narcissist returns to haunt an old or defunct PNS (Pathological Narcissistic Space, the hunting grounds of the narcissist). This happens when a narcissist can no longer occupy - physically or emotionally - his current PNS. A narcissist who is imprisoned or exiled is a good (though rare) example. Once imprisoned or exiled, the narcissist can no longer rely on obtaining Narcissistic Supply from his old sources. He has to reinvent and reshape a new PNS. In his new country, for instance, he would try out a few personas in his wardrobe until he finds the one that provides him with the best results. But if the narcissist were to return to his previous PNS (his country) - he would have no difficulty in adjusting. He would immediately assume his old persona and begin to extract Narcissistic Supply from his old sources. The personas of the narcissist, in other words, bond with his respective PNSs. These couplets are both interchangeable and inseparable in the narcissist's mind. Every time he moves - the narcissist changes the "Narcissistic Definition Couplet": his PNS and the persona attached thereto.
- Sam Vaknin, PhD.


Lets see, earlier it was theorized that I was so desparate to get back to FAIR/MAD that I was willing to grovel and do their bidding for the chance. Now, it is being theorized that I am an ego maniac looking for attention.

Could you good folk please make up your mind which end of the dispicable spectrum you wish to view me? ;-)

I find it fascination, though, that the respective theories focus, ironically, on ME, as though my actions are about ME, rather than about YOU. Yet, were you to look carefully at my posts, they, for the most part, are not about ME, but about YOU--though many of YOUR posts are about me. In other words, the evidence doesn't fit your respective theories. As such, you are left to self-delusionally speculate and imagine your respective theories are correct in spite of the evidence to the contrary. And, that, ironically as well, is because you don't want this to be about YOU. There are few things you fear more than the light shining on the real YOU (or more correctly your irrationally low sense of self)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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wenglund wrote:Lets see, earlier it was theorized that I was so desparate to get back to FAIR/MAD that I was willing to grovel and do their bidding for the chance. Now, it is being theorized that I am an ego maniac looking for attention.

Could you good folk please make up your mind which end of the dispicable spectrum you wish to view me? ;-)


Sure. The truth is that you never were truly banned, and lied about it in order to fling mud at us.

I find it fascination, though, that the respective theories focus, ironically, on ME, as though my actions are about ME, rather than about YOU. Yet, were you to look carefully at my posts, they, for the most part, are not about ME, but about YOU--though many of YOUR posts are about me. In other words, the evidence doesn't fit your respective theories. As such, you are left to self-delusionally speculate and imagine your respective theories are correct in spite of the evidence to the contrary. And, that, ironically as well, is because you don't want this to be about YOU. There are few things you fear more than the light shining on the real YOU (or more correctly your irrationally low sense of self)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Yes, in fact you are so determined to not have your posts be about you that you are willing to lie about your banned status. Well done, Wade.
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I find it fascination, though, that the respective theories focus, ironically, on ME, as though my actions are about ME, rather than about YOU. Yet, were you to look carefully at my posts, they, for the most part, are not about ME, but about YOU--though many of YOUR posts are about me. In other words, the evidence doesn't fit your respective theories. As such, you are left to self-delusionally speculate and imagine your respective theories are correct in spite of the evidence to the contrary. And, that, ironically as well, is because you don't want this to be about YOU. There are few things you fear more than the light shining on the real YOU (or more correctly your irrationally low sense of self)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Actually Wade, a close perusal of your posts shows a somewhat narcisstic fascination with yourself. Your theories about us. Your sacred beliefs. Your church. Your your your your your... endlessly your posts are only concerned with you. Ego-centric individuals such as yourself can be readily found on MAD. You're a good match for them, you non-banning notwithstanding.
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Post by _Sam Harris »

beastie wrote:Wade,

No, we don't feel foolish, but you look foolish for taking the ribbing so seriously. Some of us never imagined for one nanosecond you "like" Juliann in "that" way. ;)


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