Member Missionary work and the "bait and switch"

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_Jason Bourne
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Re: Member Missionary work and the "bait and switch&

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I stand behind my assertion that your an elitist s***head.



I strand behind my assertion that you are an immature cry babyl.



Yah, u know poor. Uhhuh
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Yep I do a.. h...

Capital begets capital. In other words, poor white trash do not claw their way up to the upper middle rung.


I never was poor white trash. I come from a modest midddle class family. My wife comes from a hard working agricultural family that was capital rich and cash poor.

I find it unlikely that you started out poor and made it to "upper upper middle class".



Do I care what you find unlikely dip stikc cry baby. Do oyou suffer from class envy as well>

maybe daddy and mommy cut you off when you got married but The scenario you speak of does not fit reality. Hell Jason, I learned that in Anthro 101.



Let me educate you more dumb ass. My dad supported me on a mission after I came up with the first 2000 buck. Actually it was 2700 but he left 700 for me when I got home because I would need some cash to start out with. He made it clear that it was a mission or college but not both. And he stuck to it. After my mission I was married within about 8 months. I had worked in fast food all through high school and as a welder one year after high school before my mission. My bride lived quite a ways from Utah so after my mission I packed up everything I owned in a 1980 Chevette I bought from my dad, he did let me take over the payments so I guess that was his contribution to my start in life, and moved about 2000 miles.

I had no job. I figured I would find one. So 8 months later I was married and working at a Pizza Hut as an Asst Mgr making $250 a week, The waitresses made more in tips. A year after marriage our first one came. we were making about 18,000 a year between us and my wife quit work so that dropped to about $12,000. I tried a few other jobs and even tried some farm work. I decided I needed to go to school. I was then 24. My wife went to work and I worked part time. We made about $9000 a year between us for four years. We rented an old farm house for $250 a month. The plaster was falling of the walls and celing. Often plaster would fall on our heads.

I finished school at 28 and my fist job was $24000 a year. My wife worked part time after that because she had a career that she wanted to do. But she never made much at it, maybe 5000-10000 a year. we had three kids by the time I graduated. I am about 4-6 years behind other of my age financially and inthe same career due to the path we went.

It took me 7 years to hit $41000 per year. After that I was successful in my chosen business and have moved rapidly up the income level from there. I have been doing what I do now for 19 year. I am now into a decent 6 figure a year income.

My wife had put herself through college. having worked on a family farm all her life she had saved quite well. She did have $8000 saved as well when we got married. We burned thought that quick buying the car and some furniture and then using some for college. We also paid for my college through scholarships and grants from the federal government.

Everything we have my wife and I worked hard as a team to get.

So before you make yourself look stupider then you already are maybe you should cease your idiotic assumptions dip stick. I did come from a decent home, inactive LDS parents etc. My dad was not rich but did ok. But I had little money when I married and worked hard to ger where we are

And yes I know what it means to be poor, to carry a calculator to the store, to put stuff back on the shelf, to drive a junky car and to live in a house that the drapes mived a lot when the wind blew in the winter and that I was embarrassed to have friends come over to visit me in


Also I still live in the first house I bought, a small three bedroom 1200 sq foot ranch built in the 60s I did add on to it, 700 Sq feet, when our fourth one was born. I drive a Cheby Mailbu Maxx and my wife drive a chevy mailbu sedan. I drove Ford Tauruses and Chevy Cavaliers before that. Id di lease my wife a nice Trailblazer a few years ago but now all but one of my kids is grown we did not need such a large car.

Anyway dud head, you should not make anymore assumptions about what you know about me.
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Jason Bourne wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:The fact remains, Jason, that as vast as your Mormon experience may/may not be, it is still only anecdotal. The truth is that it does happen. I remember our family facilitating such meetings as well.

It may not be in the handbook, but the idea is getting propagated somehow within the culture.


The fact is Schmo I said in my first post that while I had never seen it I was not denying it happened. Still my anecdotal resources are more vast so I will assume my anecdotes are more reflective of reality. And your family was stupid to do it. Were I asked to do it I would say take a hike.


Of course you'll assume your anecdotes are more reflective of reality. Most people do. Are you going to start predicting gravity too? Forgive me if I'm not impressed.

Perhaps someday you'll grow some wisdom and not make that assumption.

Of course the believing members of my family were stupid for doing it. Why do you suppose I still have issues with the church? I don't like my family being influenced to do entirely stupid things. That's what we're really talking about here, isn't it? How the church influences people to do stupid things?
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And yet you once again deny it happening. sigh.


I am only denying it because you pissed me off. Look, I am sure this happened to you. I am being honest when I say I have never ever seen it in the ward and stake and mission where I live. That is it. Happy now?

This is fun...how long can you keep it up? Or are you too busy enjoying "the good life" split 8 ways? What is it you DO exactly?



I do not want to state what I do here. Sorry.

Skeptical I am
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About what? I have not lied to you at all.
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Of course you'll assume your anecdotes are more reflective of reality. Most people do. Are you going to start predicting gravity too? Forgive me if I'm not impressed
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And you did not think yours more valid then mine?

Perhaps someday you'll grow some wisdom and not make that assumption.


I was just busting on ya man. Lighten up.

Of course the believing members of my family were stupid for doing it. Why do you suppose I still have issues with the church? I don't like my family being influenced to do entirely stupid things. That's what we're really talking about here, isn't it? How the church influences people to do stupid things?



People need to have back bone enough to say no to stupid things.
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Jason Bourne wrote:
Of course you'll assume your anecdotes are more reflective of reality. Most people do. Are you going to start predicting gravity too? Forgive me if I'm not impressed
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And you did not think yours more valid then mine?


I have long reveled in the fact that at any given time, I could be wrong about anything.

The thing is, it either happens or it doesn't. You were claiming you didn't think it did based on your personal experience. I was just adding to the list of folks who had, indeed, made this observation. Obviously, not everyone does it, but some Mormons do. Best just accept and acknowledge it.

Jason Bourne wrote:
Perhaps someday you'll grow some wisdom and not make that assumption.


I was just busting on ya man. Lighten up.


Me too, man. Me too. I'm as light as a feather. *reflexively rolls eyes*

Jason Bourne wrote:
Of course the believing members of my family were stupid for doing it. Why do you suppose I still have issues with the church? I don't like my family being influenced to do entirely stupid things. That's what we're really talking about here, isn't it? How the church influences people to do stupid things?



People need to have back bone enough to say no to stupid things.


On this, we entirely agree. If I, as a scared teenager living in my parent's home, had my way and didn't feel like it would endanger my life, I'd have likely told my parents that I didn't like it.

I wish my dad would grow a backbone and admit he's living a lie.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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