Joseph's First Vision--official contradiction?

[_asbestosman]

Is there not a better time to talk about this issue in church?

Why not in the Ensigh where it was already publised?

[_Ray A]

Did anyone's Gospel Doctrine class have a discussion on there being more than one version of the First Vision?

LOL! Good one.

I was serious on this question. There was no mention of this in our class. I suspect such a discussion could only occur in a ward located within a four mile radius to a university.

This was the subject of an article in The Ensign c.1979.

Maybe some ward GD teachers haven't read it, or are just plain uninformed.

[_Ray A]

Okay, okay, I'll admit it. The Tanners revealed the different versions in the 1960s, and by the late 1970s the Church was being more open about it. But I did have to point this out to many members, who missed that Ensign article.

[_karl61]

Charity wrote:

" When Joseph told others of the First Vision, many people became prejudiced against him and persecuted him. Why do you think people reacted in this way? Ponder Joseph’s response to the persecution. How can we follow his example when we face persecution or other trials?"

Why was Joseph attending a methodist church around 1828 if Lord told him that all the church's were wrong. Early records show he was more concerned that his sins were forgiven than what church was right.

[_moksha]

Why should that come up? The purpose of the lesson is not to teach multiple accounts of the First Vision, the explanation for different facts in each acocunt.

But many apologists (maybe not you) claim that the issues we discuss on the Internet are talked about in church all the time, and that all the members know about them, or at least should know about them. It seems if this is the case, the best time to talk about the multiple accounts of the first vision in church would be during the lesson from the Joseph Smith manual entitled "The First Vision." Is there not a better time to talk about this issue in church?

When I hear these things are well known among non-internet Mormons, I feel a bit skeptical. After all, when are they ever mentioned at Church? Just yesterday on Beliefnet there was a life long Mormon woman who admitted to never hearing about the things being discussed. I chalked that up to her being new to the Mormon forums.

[_Ray A]

When I hear these things are well known among non-internet Mormons, I feel a bit skeptical. After all, when are they ever mentioned at Church? Just yesterday on Beliefnet there was a life long Mormon woman who admitted to never hearing about the things being discussed. I chalked that up to her being new to the Mormon forums.

Mok, there is nothing revealed on Mormon-related forums that has not already been revealed in hardcopy for years. The Internet is just "pop culture", often gossip, what-we-learned-on-the-Net-but-were-too-lazy-to-research-in-hardcopy.

[_harmony]

Early records show he was more concerned that his sins were forgiven than what church was right.

Good grief. Just how many sins could a 14 year old have?

[_SatanWasSetUp]

Did anyone's Gospel Doctrine class have a discussion on there being more than one version of the First Vision?

LOL! Good one.

I was serious on this question. There was no mention of this in our class. I suspect such a discussion could only occur in a ward located within a four mile radius to a university.

This was the subject of an article in The Ensign c.1979.

Maybe some ward GD teachers haven't read it, or are just plain uninformed.

Or maybe 1979 was a long time ago, and the GD teacher is 28 years old and doesn't have that issue sitting on their coffee table.

[_charity]

Early records show he was more concerned that his sins were forgiven than what church was right.

Good grief. Just how many sins could a 14 year old have?

He grew up in Puritan New England. Everything was a sin. Music. Dancing. Laughing out loud. Being happy.

[_the road to hana]

Early records show he was more concerned that his sins were forgiven than what church was right.

Good grief. Just how many sins could a 14 year old have?

He grew up in Puritan New England. Everything was a sin. Music. Dancing. Laughing out loud. Being happy.

Marrying other men's wives. . .