President Monson, President Eyring, President Uchtdorf

[_the road to hana]

I particularly enjoyed the press conference where several antiMormon style questions were asked. Monson handled them beautifully. In particular, there is no room for disagreement with the Church on doctrine ....

What? There is no room for disagreement with the church on docftrine???? What was he thinking?

So, what's the deal with Packer and Oaks getting passed over? Where in the hierarchy does Oaks stand exactly, if anyone knows?

After Monson, it's Packer, Perry, Nelson, and then Oaks.

[_BishopRic]

I particularly enjoyed the press conference where several antiMormon style questions were asked. Monson handled them beautifully. In particular, there is no room for disagreement with the Church on doctrine ....

What? There is no room for disagreement with the church on docftrine???? What was he thinking?

So, what's the deal with Packer and Oaks getting passed over? Where in the hierarchy does Oaks stand exactly, if anyone knows?

After Monson, it's Packer, Perry, Nelson, and then Oaks.

And I "pray" Monson outlives KKK Packer...

(there, back to my anti-Mormon reputation....)

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

I particularly enjoyed the press conference where several antiMormon style questions were asked. Monson handled them beautifully. In particular, there is no room for disagreement with the Church on doctrine ....

What? There is no room for disagreement with the church on docftrine???? What was he thinking?

So, what's the deal with Packer and Oaks getting passed over? Where in the hierarchy does Oaks stand exactly, if anyone knows?

They're not getting "passed over." They are still in line the same as all the 12. They just have different roles in the whole hierarchy now, but depending on who lives the longest, they'll take their seat as "prophet" when the time comes.

(Man, do I sound like an apologist now?????)

You sound exactliy like one. Stop it!!

[_the road to hana]

I particularly enjoyed the press conference where several antiMormon style questions were asked. Monson handled them beautifully. In particular, there is no room for disagreement with the Church on doctrine ....

What? There is no room for disagreement with the church on docftrine???? What was he thinking?

So, what's the deal with Packer and Oaks getting passed over? Where in the hierarchy does Oaks stand exactly, if anyone knows?

After Monson, it's Packer, Perry, Nelson, and then Oaks.

And I "pray" Monson outlives KKK Packer...

(there, back to my anti-Mormon reputation....)

Lots of us used to feel the same way about Benson, but I'm sure there were people in the membership who loved him.

[_BishopRic]

I particularly enjoyed the press conference where several antiMormon style questions were asked. Monson handled them beautifully. In particular, there is no room for disagreement with the Church on doctrine ....

What? There is no room for disagreement with the church on docftrine???? What was he thinking?

So, what's the deal with Packer and Oaks getting passed over? Where in the hierarchy does Oaks stand exactly, if anyone knows?

After Monson, it's Packer, Perry, Nelson, and then Oaks.

And I "pray" Monson outlives KKK Packer...

(there, back to my anti-Mormon reputation....)

Lots of us used to feel the same way about Benson, but I'm sure there were people in the membership who loved him.

He really softened with age. I don't see that happening with Packer...it's too ingrained in his facial lines...

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

I particularly enjoyed the press conference where several antiMormon style questions were asked. Monson handled them beautifully. In particular, there is no room for disagreement with the Church on doctrine ....

What? There is no room for disagreement with the church on docftrine???? What was he thinking?

So, what's the deal with Packer and Oaks getting passed over? Where in the hierarchy does Oaks stand exactly, if anyone knows?

After Monson, it's Packer, Perry, Nelson, and then Oaks.

Thanks, I thought he was higher up.

Doesn't this thing about there being no room for disagreement with the church on doctrine seem strange to anyone else? I don't know the context, but it sounds amazingly arrogant and not something that an unfriendlly press would just accept as fact (if that were the case, as bcspace seems to imply, but again the context is missing).

[_charity]

I particularly enjoyed the press conference where several antiMormon style questions were asked. Monson handled them beautifully. In particular, there is no room for disagreement with the Church on doctrine ....

What? There is no room for disagreement with the church on docftrine???? What was he thinking?

So, what's the deal with Packer and Oaks getting passed over? Where in the hierarchy does Oaks stand exactly, if anyone knows?

Luceretia, I have occasionally been accused of being condescending when I reply to a poster who appears not to understand the workings of the Church.

Your post leads me to believe you are not now, and how never been a member of the Church. Is that correct?

There is not disagreement on doctrine. And there is no such thing as getting "passed over." We serve in any capacity where we are called. It may seem to the outside world that there is some kind of glory thing going on with being bisihop, stake president, regional rep, General Authority, etc. And that there is some kind of social position among the apostles. Not true.

I know many men that I consider as wise, spiritual, "holy" in the sense of personal worthiness, as the apostles and the prophet. There can only be one prophet and head of the Church on the earth at one time, but that doesn't mean there aren't many great people. So, no, there is no wordly social position thing in the Church.

[_BishopRic]

Doesn't this thing about there being no room for disagreement with the church on doctrine seem strange to anyone else? I don't know the context, but it sounds amazingly arrogant and not something that an unfriendlly press would just accept as fact (if that were the case, as bcspace seems to imply, but again the context is missing).

Actually, it sounds like the thing to say. The reality though is that it sets the stage for some real conflict, since we all know each member (including the leaders) have their own take on what is doctrine, and what is not. So when pressed, I see some real inner-circle battles ready to brew....

[_the road to hana]

Luceretia, I have occasionally been accused of being condescending when I reply to a poster who appears not to understand the workings of the Church.

If you're referring to me, I understand the "workings of the Church" just fine, thank you.

[_bcspace]

Funny. The way you guys talk makes me think that you're thinking one can get away with more or less depending on who the prophet is.