I'm glad I never had a testimony of polygamy

[_SatanWasSetUp]

Actually I think polygamy was Joseph Smith's only good idea. If he had simply jettisoned the whole religion thing, admitted he never saw god and Jesus, admitted the Book of Mormon was a clumsy fraud, and turned the Mormon religion into a free-love commune, where multiple partners were allowed for both the men and women, it would have been a much better idea than what he came up with. He was born 150 years too late. He needed to start his movement in the 1960s.

[_Scottie]

The idea that there are people who still support this practice reminds me of those who hung onto slavery when most of civilized American society realized how cruel and hurtful it really was.

I always wonder about polygamy supporters. I wonder if Joseph Smith had brought back the ancient and holy practice of sacrificing unblemished, virgin children on an alter, as is recorded in the Bible, would there be people today who find it beautiful? And for those that speak against it, the apologist could just point them right back to Abraham and Isaac.

[_Scottie]

The idea that there are people who still support this practice reminds me of those who hung onto slavery when most of civilized American society realized how cruel and hurtful it really was.

I always wonder about polygamy supporters. I wonder if Joseph Smith had brought back the ancient and holy practice of sacrificing unblemished, virgin children on an alter, as is recorded in the Bible, would there be people today who find it beautiful? And for those that speak against it, the apologist could just point them right back to Abraham and Isaac.

[_Gazelam]

Polygamy is easier to understand when you use the phrase "plural families" as opposed to plural marriage.

[_Scottie]

Polygamy is easier to understand when you use the phrase "plural families" as opposed to plural marriage.

No it isn't.

[_BishopRic]

Polygamy is easier to understand when you use the phrase "plural families" as opposed to plural marriage.

Polygamy is easier to understand when you use the phrase "multiple sex partners" as opposed to plural marriage

[_truth dancer]

Hey Gaz,

Polygamy is easier to understand when you use the phrase "plural families" as opposed to plural marriage.

You have got to be kidding.

Lets see... I know a man who was married three times, and has five children. (Obviously he is not married to three women nor does he have twenty children which would be more the norm in a harem lifestyle but lets go with this example for a sec).

His children are spread across town in various homes. He tries to be an involved parent but it is not easy when one has three families to keep track of. As hard as he tries, he is not able to appropriately parent his children. It is physically impossible.

The idea that any man can be a good father, (not to mention a decent husband) with multiple familes is so ridiculous that I find it difficult to believe anyone thinks this is a good idea.

Children suffer, women suffer, young men suffer, and in my opinion, caring and decent men suffer as well. The only men who seem to be fine with the harem lifestyle are those who do not want a loving, caring, intimate relationship with a woman, and do not enjoy the father rold, but want sex with multiple partners.

Lets be real.

;-)

~dancer~

[_beastie]

The church has evolved into an institution that values intact families and abhors divorce except for the most extreme circumstances. Yet, in its early days, it created functionally single mother families all the time - both through polygamy and through the practice of calling married men on extended missions.

Does anyone else remember reading that BY didn't even recognize all of his children, much less have a real relationship with them?

[_truth dancer]

At a time when the human species began to realize why life invented male parental investment, clearly demonstrating the survival benefit of fathers caring for offspring, the early church literally removed fathers from the home and for all intents and purposes created children without invested fathers.

The harem lifestyle dismisses one of natures most amazing abilities, in my opinion.

The lifestyle works for men who do not want to be real fathers.

At times I wonder why Joseph Smith, BY, & co. are so honored when there is little to suggest they even remotely cared for their children, let alone their wives.

~dancer~

[_Jersey Girl]

At a time when the human species began to realize why life invented male parental investment, clearly demonstrating the survival benefit of fathers caring for offspring, the early church literally removed fathers from the home and for all intents and purposes created children without invested fathers.

The harem lifestyle dismisses one of natures most amazing abilities, in my opinion.

The lifestyle works for men who do not want to be real fathers.

At times I wonder why Joseph Smith, BY, & co. are so honored when there is little to suggest they even remotely cared for their children, let alone their wives.

~dancer~

And do you know what, TD? When we read about celebrities or know people who procreate indiscriminately, we condemn them for their irresponsible behavior. Well, I condemn them. I shouldn't claim to speak for the collective "we".