After over 2 years, the wife is finally done with it.

[_bcspace]

LOL!

What a bunch of agony prolonging cowards.

[_The Dude]

BCSpace, People are here saying it pays off to be patient. What agony is prolonged by waiting for your spouse to see the light?

[_Boaz & Lidia]

LOL!

What a bunch of agony prolonging cowards.

Spoken like a true condescending son's-a-bitch Mormon penisholding husband! "Follow me woman, or you will be replaced by one that will!"

Perhaps you are jealous that your wife doesn't even own hot panties and a sexy tanktop?

See beecee, the problem with that is that most exmo men typically did not treat their wives like crap before or after their exit, perhaps due to the fact that most exmo men married their wives for LOVE, not because they were supposed to, K?

And with that course comment from our friend Buggered Cantankerous space I have a question for him and will start a new thread here.

[_Moniker]

LOL!

What a bunch of agony prolonging cowards.

You? You're the one that can't wait to die so you get to make your wife a hottie. Right?

[_John Larsen]

LOL!

What a bunch of agony prolonging cowards.

What in the name of Don are you talking about?

[_Chap]

See beecee, the problem with that is that most exmo men typically did not treat their wives like s*** before or after their exit, perhaps due to the fact that most exmo men married their wives for LOVE, not because they were supposed to, K?

I thought that most ex-Mo men married their wives for the same reason practicing LDS married their wives -- so they could have sex and stop dry humping.

From what I have read here and elsewhere, I think that the LDS married men who marry, as you elegantly put it, simply "so they could have sex and stop dry humping" tend to stay LDS. Of course I may be wrong.

There is perhaps something about marrying somebody because you love her or him, not just because you feel the need for regular sex and feel you cannot get it otherwise, that disposes people to think independently about the huge demands that the CoJCoLDS makes on their time, their money and their credulity. You see, they have a reference point outside the framework of the church - something whose importance does not depend on their continued belief.

That is why they are often prepared to put in a lot of effort and patience in order to ensure that their TBM spouse is given the time and space needed in order to make up their mind about what they want to do. Cowardice? No - what an odd idea. Love and patience? Yes - seems obvious to me.

BCspace's 'cowards' comment really puzzles me. Would he like to explain why he thinks that this word is appropriate?

[_Moniker]

See beecee, the problem with that is that most exmo men typically did not treat their wives like s*** before or after their exit, perhaps due to the fact that most exmo men married their wives for LOVE, not because they were supposed to, K?

I thought that most ex-Mo men married their wives for the same reason practicing LDS married their wives -- so they could have sex and stop dry humping.

From what I have read here and elsewhere, I think that the LDS married men who marry, as you elegantly put it, simply "so they could have sex and stop dry humping" tend to stay LDS. Of course I may be wrong.

There is perhaps something about marrying somebody because you love her or him, not just because you feel the need for regular sex and feel you cannot get it otherwise, that disposes people to think independently about the huge demands that the CoJCoLDS makes on their time, their money and their credulity. You see, they have a reference point outside the framework of the church - something whose importance does not depend on their continued belief.

That is why they are often prepared to put in a lot of effort and patience in order to ensure that their TBM spouse is given the time and space needed in order to make up their mind about what they want to do. Cowardice? No - what an odd idea. Love and patience? Yes - seems obvious to me.

BCspace's 'cowards' comment really puzzles me. Would he like to explain why he thinks that this word is appropriate?

Ha. I deleted that comment -- too honest. :)

I was using their terminology by the way. Some ex-mo men talk about the experience of "dating" pre-marriage quite a bit...

I absolutely believe that most young adults that are pushed into marriage by the LDS church are most likely not mature enough to handle the demands of marriage. That love and patience develops over time is something that no doubt occurs. Yet, when young men are told they can not have ANY sexual release outside of marriage this desire for sex (no doubt in my mind) does play a huge role into getting married at such a young age.

I also would like to know why bcspace used the term "cowardice". I see anyone willing to step outside family, community, and Church to forge a new path as the antithesis to a coward.

[_antishock8]

Well, it might gratify BCSpace to know I was one of those brave souls who jumped into my apostasy with both feet. *kerplunk*

I was being divorced within three months. ;) So. That being said, I think if people want to take it slow that's their choice and we shouldn't beat them up about it. Me personally? I'm glad I'm divorced from mah babymamma, but I wouldn't wish a divorce on anyone. Ugh...

[_Sam Harris]

Done with the church, that is.

Some of you know my story, which is pretty typical around these parts, so I won't repeat it. But anyhow, about 2 1/2 years after me 'leaving' the church, my wife is leaving also.

What did it? A few things, in my opinion. I never really talked about religion. I never looked to get into fights/arguments about the church. I even fully supported my wife over the last couple years. I went to sac. meeting. Let my son get baptized, etc. I never pushed any readings on her. But then what happened, is that she started telling friends, co-workers, etc. about me, and she soon realized that many people she knew, and thought were LDS, were just like me. And guess what? They were NORMAL! and fyi, we live in Utah County - the Mormon heartland.

Anyways, I guess curiosity finally got the best of her, and she researched online. She read bushman's RSR. She read palmer's 'insider's view'. She flipped through 'by his own hand upon papyrus'. She read FARMS.

It was like there was a barrier between her faith, and rational thinking. And one day, she peeked over the barrier, and by then, it was over.

She's still doing her calling for now. We're probably going to move in a few months, and that's when we'll make the official 'break'. But she has dropped the "Gs". Damn, it's like falling in love all over again - seeing my wife get in bed in nothing but panties and a tank top.

Thanks to everyone who's offered their words of wisdom over these last couple of years. You've truly helped me stay sane.

For those in similar situations as I was in, there's hope for you! My one big piece of advice: Back off, and let it play out.

Hey man, glad it came to a peaceful solution for you. And your last lines were very good advice.

[_Moniker]

Well, it might gratify BCSpace to know I was one of those brave souls who jumped into my apostasy with both feet. *kerplunk*

I was being divorced within three months. ;) So. That being said, I think if people want to take it slow that's their choice and we shouldn't beat them up about it. Me personally? I'm glad I'm divorced from mah babymamma, but I wouldn't wish a divorce on anyone. Ugh...

Seems like there are lots of divorces occurring or occurred because of apostasy. Of course that in and of itself shows how the LDS Church is more committed to those that are members keeping their loyalty to their Church above love and loyalty to their spouses.

I'm glad that Who Knows was able to make it out with his family intact.