Outing Annonymous Posters

[_Coggins7]

An odd interpretation. It seems to me that there was nothing wrong with the blessing in and of itself. Rather, this fellow's trumpeting about his spiritual "accomplishments" is what transforms him into a "blowhard." I really see no need for the self-congratulatory email. The motivations seems to be little more than petty boastfulness.

What crap. The letter contains no such allusions. Its a letter of testimony and faith, and the abject viciousness and pettiness of the attack against it is just the kind of bloviating bigotry this board was constructed to amplify.

Which is precisely why you are here defending it.

[_GoodK]

Back to the Kelp for you Goodk. You seem to be, unfortunately, just as I suspected. This post is both too facile and too conspicuously evil in its ground and intent to do any justice to by way of refutation.

Back here to bathe in our attention again, hmm...

[_GoodK]

Shame on you for anonymously injuring your family in its very darkest hour. I pray for them. I pray that you will soften your heart.

rcrocket

Actually, Bob, I wasn't the one doing the injuring.

It is ridiculous to give credit to God for healing a disease he gave to someone in the first place.

[_Coggins7]

Actually, Bob, I wasn't the one doing the injuring.

It is ridiculous to give credit to God for healing a disease he gave to someone in the first
place.

Interesting theology. In what sense do you believe, or why do you believe, God "gave" the disease to this person?

And, even if he did have some direct hand in its acquisition, why would doing so, to provide a learning experience for the one who had the disease, as well as to the one who exercised Christian love, charity, and concern for the welfare of another and was able to use his authority to act in the name of God to bring relief and comfort, be a bad thing? Are not most of our greatest hours as human beings manifest in times of distress, fear, darkness, and suffering?

[_Mister Scratch]

An odd interpretation. It seems to me that there was nothing wrong with the blessing in and of itself. Rather, this fellow's trumpeting about his spiritual "accomplishments" is what transforms him into a "blowhard." I really see no need for the self-congratulatory email. The motivations seems to be little more than petty boastfulness.

What crap. The letter contains no such allusions. Its a letter of testimony and faith, and the abject viciousness and pettiness of the attack against it is just the kind of bloviating bigotry this board was constructed to amplify.

Which is precisely why you are here defending it.

No, I disagree. If the letter had been genuine and heartfelt, it would have simply told everyone about the young woman's health, and expressed thanks for everyone's support. Instead, it carried on at length about how, via the power of the priesthood, this guy was able to drum up so much attention and well-wishing. I suppose you could argue that this guy is just a crappy writer, and didn't think about how he might come across, but, then again, this sort of myopia is just further evidence of his arrogance---or, as Goodk put it, his "blowhard-ness".

[_rcrocket]

Shame on you for anonymously injuring your family in its very darkest hour. I pray for them. I pray that you will soften your heart.

rcrocket

Actually, Bob, I wasn't the one doing the injuring.

It is ridiculous to give credit to God for healing a disease he gave to someone in the first place.

It is unreasonable to make fun, anonymously, of your step-father and your mother when they rather need your support and love. Again, I hope your heart will be softened.

[_Mary]

It is ridiculous to give credit to God for healing a disease he gave to someone in the first place.

It is unreasonable to make fun, anonymously, of your step-father and your mother when they rather need your support and love. Again, I hope your heart will be softened.

Also, in our LDS faith community, we give actual priesthood blessings by the laying on of hands as discussed in the New Testament and elsewhere, and Nicole was the recipient of several of these. I was present for some of them and was struck by the amazing power and faith of one David ****, a Melchizedek Priesthood holder and a man without guile, who boldly rebuked the very disease that brought harm to our daughter.

And something more: members of our congregation back in California, along with others, fasted on behalf of her, and we believe this had a profound effect in opening the heavens and receiving a miracle.....

Rocket and Coggins.....perhaps you can explain something to me...
I don't doubt (much) that faith can work in mysterious ways throughout the world with ALL of God's children....

But tell me this....

What of the occassions when blessings were given, diseases were rebuked, hope was given, healing was assured, and then the person or child involved dies.

The faith promoting occassions are good well...faith promoters....

But...my admiration and feeling goes to those whose hopes were dashed, whose faith was challenged amidst a blessing that actually doens't come to fruition, through no fault or lack of faith on their part...

I wonder how this good man would have dealt with the situation had this happened to him...

I feel slightly uncomfortable with a God who is blessing, because it also entails a God who is doing the opposite, ie punishing...(and sometimes punishing, without any seeming cause)

And sometimes God is neither blessing or punishing in my honest opinion...Life is just life, and that's the way it is....

[_rcrocket]

I only object to the post in that it comes from a family member poking fun at the rest of the family for a real terrible problem they are going through. I think the milk of human kindness, whether one is Muslim or atheist, would require some respect for privacy and some compassion at this time. The family GoodK pokes fun at is known by hundreds of people.

In a PM to me GoodK threatened to start posting personal information about my family if I told his/her step-father about what is being said about the family here. I can't imagine any member of that family resorting to extortion so I doubt GoodK is who he/she says he/she is. I have met the kids and they are the greatest.

In terms of the theological question posed in the post above, it is not limited to Mormon theology and transcends the developed theology of most miracle-based faiths. Why would God permit evil in the world only to see it be rebuked by His power? I try and limit my participation to uniquely Mormon issues and thus won't respond.

Bob Crockett

[_Yoda]

I only object to the post in that it comes from a family member poking fun at the rest of the family for a real terrible problem they are going through. I think the milk of human kindness, whether one is Muslim or atheist, would require some respect for privacy and some compassion at this time. The family GoodK pokes fun at is known by hundreds of people.

In a PM to me GoodK threatened to start posting personal information about my family if I told his/her step-father about what is being said about the family here. I can't imagine any member of that family resorting to extortion so I doubt GoodK is who he/she says he/she is. I have met the kids and they are the greatest.

Exactly what is being said about the family here? Everyone is glad that GoodK's sister in law is healing well, and that she is in recovery. No one is wishing ill will on her family. Quite the opposite, from what I can tell.

Although I do question the integrity of posting a personal letter, it is hers to post if she sees fit to do so.

She will not, however, be able to make good on her threat to post personal information about you here. If she, or anyone posts personal information about another poster, the personal information will be removed, and posting privileges of the offending party will be revoked.

[_GoodK]

I only object to the post in that it comes from a family member poking fun at the rest of the family for a real terrible problem they are going through. I think the milk of human kindness, whether one is Muslim or atheist, would require some respect for privacy and some compassion at this time. The family GoodK pokes fun at is known by hundreds of people.

In a PM to me GoodK threatened to start posting personal information about my family if I told his/her step-father about what is being said about the family here. I can't imagine any member of that family resorting to extortion so I doubt GoodK is who he/she says he/she is. I have met the kids and they are the greatest.

In terms of the theological question posed in the post above, it is not limited to Mormon theology and transcends the developed theology of most miracle-based faiths. Why would God permit evil in the world only to see it be rebuked by His power? I try and limit my participation to uniquely Mormon issues and thus won't respond.

Bob Crockett

If you'd like to move this from the realm of the internet - since you hate anonymity so much - I'll play along. Don't be a moron.

But I have nothing to be ashamed of as far as that post is concerned. I love my sister and have been worried about her all week.
I find it foul and disgusting to recieve a newsbulletin about how she has been healed through the power of prayer and the priesthood, as if God would have let her die if my family happened to pick the wrong religion.

Kiss my ass Bob.