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Post by _GoodK »

dartagnan wrote:Hitler absolutely hated Christianity. Hitler was more faithful to scientism than Christianity, and he shared many of the same sentiments expressed by militant atheists today.

Since you love links so much, try this one on for size: http://www.trueorigin.org/hitler01.asp



Anyone see this laughable quote from the link above:

The churches’ sin was not in inspiring Hitler to commit his many crimes, but in not stopping him — the same sin that the churches are guilty of in the modern war against the Darwin doubters in the west today.
Actually, what drove Hitler was not his putative Christianity, but rather the goal of implementing social Darwinism.


What a pile of crap that is.

Not much better should be expected from a Creationist website, one that's mission is "Exposing the Myth of Evolution"

Kevin, you can do better than this..
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Post by _Bond...James Bond »

John Larsen wrote:How is socialism anti-Christian?


You'd think that socialism's focus on cooperation and equality would be more in line with Christianity than capitalism, which focuses on competition and assumes inequality.
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Post by _John Larsen »

Bond...James Bond wrote:
John Larsen wrote:How is socialism anti-Christian?


You'd think that socialism's focus on cooperation and equality would be more in line with Christianity than capitalism, which focuses on competition and assumes inequality.


Exactly. At the very least it is Christian-neutral.
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Re: topic shift to "music" & "voice"

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JAK wrote:Ah, Nehor,

Then you think the singer’s questions were good, but you think his “voice” “sounds like an idiot.”

And the “music” also, you think sounds like an “idiot.” I’m not quite sure how that works that “music” can be (sound like) an “idiot.”

Would you have preferred a different key? You do know about key signatures in music, don’t you?

Would the key of E-flat Major have sounded less like an “idiot”?

Or do you think a minor key rather than a major key in the music would have sounded better (less like “idiot”)?

If so, do you prefer harmonic minor key or natural minor key? Which of these two minor forms sound more or less like “idiot”?

Just asking since the subject was the youtube program and your evaluation of “music” and “voice.”


JAK


No, I don't think his questions were good. I still think the music and his voice were awful.

Thank you for your "Moron's Guide to Basic Musical Theory". As I hope you're aware, different keys are more effective in certain situations than others. I was making an aesthetic judgment about the singer and his music. Such judgments are useful only for the individual and perhaps a group of like-minded individuals who appreciate similar music. What I'm trying to say is that it was an opinion, you stupid nitwit (this is also an opinion). Most people picked up on that. You didn't.

For example, I find your uses of bold and multi-colored text to be obnoxious, infantile and condescending. However, this is an aesthetic judgment.

Also, you failed the experiment. Again, you ignored the question.
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Post by _The Nehor »

John Larsen wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:
John Larsen wrote:How is socialism anti-Christian?


You'd think that socialism's focus on cooperation and equality would be more in line with Christianity than capitalism, which focuses on competition and assumes inequality.


Exactly. At the very least it is Christian-neutral.


I agree with that assessment. I do think that a selfish, materialistic society (in my opinion the state of the western world) will survive longer under capitalism than socialism but I see no Christian endorsement of one over the other. Christ wasn't big on economic, social, and political reform; he was more interested having individuals change.
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Post by _Moniker »

Bond...James Bond wrote:
John Larsen wrote:How is socialism anti-Christian?


You'd think that socialism's focus on cooperation and equality would be more in line with Christianity than capitalism, which focuses on competition and assumes inequality.


That's why I asked bcspace if God = Jesus for LDS. I could imagine all sorts of policies could be attributed to God of the Old Testament, yet, quite different than Jesus.
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Post by _The Nehor »

Moniker wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:
John Larsen wrote:How is socialism anti-Christian?


You'd think that socialism's focus on cooperation and equality would be more in line with Christianity than capitalism, which focuses on competition and assumes inequality.


That's why I asked bcspace if God = Jesus for LDS. I could imagine all sorts of policies could be attributed to God of the Old Testament, yet, quite different than Jesus.


While the technical answer would be no on 'God = Jesus' ideologically they are united with the Son taking direction from the Father (hence Jesus praying a lot).
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Post by _Moniker »

The Nehor wrote:
Moniker wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:
John Larsen wrote:How is socialism anti-Christian?


You'd think that socialism's focus on cooperation and equality would be more in line with Christianity than capitalism, which focuses on competition and assumes inequality.


That's why I asked bcspace if God = Jesus for LDS. I could imagine all sorts of policies could be attributed to God of the Old Testament, yet, quite different than Jesus.


While the technical answer would be no on 'God = Jesus' ideologically they are united with the Son taking direction from the Father (hence Jesus praying a lot).


Right, I knew Jesus prayed to God... which confuses me with mainstream denomination trinity thought...
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"Laughable"

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GoodK wrote:
dartagnan wrote:Hitler absolutely hated Christianity. Hitler was more faithful to scientism than Christianity, and he shared many of the same sentiments expressed by militant atheists today.

Since you love links so much, try this one on for size: http://www.trueorigin.org/hitler01.asp



Anyone see this laughable quote from the link above:

The churches’ sin was not in inspiring Hitler to commit his many crimes, but in not stopping him — the same sin that the churches are guilty of in the modern war against the Darwin doubters in the west today.
Actually, what drove Hitler was not his putative Christianity, but rather the goal of implementing social Darwinism.


What a pile of crap that is.

Not much better should be expected from a Creationist website, one that's mission is "Exposing the Myth of Evolution"

Kevin, you can do better than this..


Actually, Kevin (or whatever his identity) cannot do better.

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Post by _Jersey Girl »

dartagnan wrote:How does any of that mumbo jumbo deal with the fact that none of this is surprising? My point is this. Of course he is a Christian. So what? None of this is news.

And no, Hitler was not a Christian, even though he was born one. Try reading books, and stop relaying trash from infidels.org.

Hitler absolutely hated Christianity. Hitler was more faithful to scientism than Christianity, and he shared many of the same sentiments expressed by militant atheists today.

Since you love links so much, try this one on for size: http://www.trueorigin.org/hitler01.asp

But be careful because it directs our attention to real books written by real scholars. Try not to hurt yourself.


That your link directs attention to "real books written by real scholars" has little to do with the point raised in JAK's post, assuming that is who you are responding to in the above post.

JAK referred to Hitler's claim.

The question that needs answering is this:

Did Hitler claim to be Christian?
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