Why no mention of Heavenly mother?

[_truth dancer]

During Neolithic times it was the Goddess who was worshipped.

Humans had not yet connected the reality that intercourse had something to do with a woman giving birth, hence the idea that a woman could bring forth a child was revered. In addition, many early agricultural societies honored the earth (and nature) as an awareness emerged into the human mind that the earth and sun brought forth life.

It wasn't until the origins of patriarchy, (think Semitic tribal nomads destroying pagan societies, ie. Moses slaughtering the Canaanites), when women were moved into a subservient, degraded place in society.

Once humans realized that sex resulted in birth, males thought that the sperm alone was the reason for life. Women were believed to just be the "oven" so to speak. The whole ethos chanced into one of male dominance/woman subservience.

The very creation story chanced... rather than women bringing forth life, patriarchal leaders changed the story so women came from man (Adam and Eve).

It wasn't until the mid 1700's that science understood a sperm and egg were needed to create life. And, with this, slowly, VERY slowly things are changing.

Here we are four centuries later, and some men are STILL holding onto the patriarchal mythology. :-(


~dancer~

[_Yoda]

Great minds, TD! I was just getting ready to post something similar when I read your post! ;)

One little thought I would like to add here is this. It's too bad that patriarchal orders seem to overlook the fact that life cannot happen without men AND women. As in....men and women as EQUAL partners?

Gee...what a concept! ;)

[_The Nehor]

During Neolithic times it was the Goddess who was worshipped.

Humans had not yet connected the reality that intercourse had something to do with a woman giving birth, hence the idea that a woman could bring forth a child was revered. In addition, many early agricultural societies honored the earth (and nature) as an awareness emerged into the human mind that the earth and sun brought forth life.

It wasn't until the origins of patriarchy, (think Semitic tribal nomads destroying pagan societies, ie. Moses slaughtering the Canaanites), when women were moved into a subservient, degraded place in society.

Once humans realized that sex resulted in birth, males thought that the sperm alone was the reason for life. Women were believed to just be the "oven" so to speak. The whole ethos chanced into one of male dominance/woman subservience.

The very creation story chanced... rather than women bringing forth life, patriarchal leaders changed the story so women came from man (Adam and Eve).

It wasn't until the mid 1700's that science understood a sperm and egg were needed to create life. And, with this, slowly, VERY slowly things are changing.

Here we are four centuries later, and some men are STILL holding onto the patriarchal mythology. :-(


~dancer~

On the bright side, at least both genders got a turn.

[_Yoda]

On the bright side, at least both genders got a turn.

Who let you out of the Goddess Suite basement? I told Sami that the pink fuzzy handcuffs wouldn't work.

[_The Nehor]

On the bright side, at least both genders got a turn.

Who let you out of the Goddess Suite basement? I told Sami that the pink fuzzy handcuffs wouldn't work.

I'm something of an escape artist. Get used to it. :)

[_Maxrep]

According to LDS, the lord has seen fit to endow his true and livivng church with vastly greater light an knowledge than other sects. Perhaps it is this mindset that creates fertile ground to grow all sorts of conjecture and faith promoting rumor. I believe that the lack of mentioning "Heavenly Mother", for reasons of "Sacred Protection", was nothing more than an idea that gained momentum within the church.

It seems perfectly normal that the Virgin Mary escapes blaspheming, and that is in light of the fact that the whole premise of immaculate conception could include sexual overtones. Have you ever heard, " I bet Mary was a hot piece, it wouldn't have been so immaculate if I had gotten with her"? Of course not!
Yet LDS are so very sure that Heavenly Mother would be dragged through the dirt, seven ways till Sunday, if there was any mention of her.

[_Mercury]

I believe that the lack of mentioning "Heavenly Mother", for reasons of "Sacred Protection", was nothing more than an idea that gained momentum within the church..

Shhh! Don't mention Memes...Tal gets mad.

:)

[_moksha]

We Mormons have already climbed out on a limb with speculations about the nature of God. Must we climb even further?

[_Gazelam]

The reason it would screw things up is because there are definitive roles that Men and Women have.

Women have the womb. Women have the mammary glands, women are the nurturers and caretakers by their very nature.

Men are the providers and enviorment builders. We are also the bearers of the family name, which is at the core of all of this. Christ came in the name of his Father, and did all that he did in the name of his Father. When he had accoplished his mission, he gained all that was attached to his Fathers name. The same offer is made to us if we live up to the name of Christ.

And if we become heirs to the name of Christ, then we have claim on those that we placed our names upon.

[_harmony]

The reason it would screw things up is because there are definitive roles that Men and Women have.

Women have the womb. Women have the mammary glands, women are the nurturers and caretakers by their very nature.

Men are the providers and enviorment builders. We are also the bearers of the family name, which is at the core of all of this. Christ came in the name of his Father, and did all that he did in the name of his Father. When he had accoplished his mission, he gained all that was attached to his Fathers name. The same offer is made to us if we live up to the name of Christ.

And if we become heirs to the name of Christ, then we have claim on those that we placed our names upon.

Horse manure. Women are the gatherers. Men are the hunters. That is just as valid as your premise, gaz.