John Larsen wrote:Persecution usually strengthens religious movements.
Yes, but only when the children remain with their parents. That doesn't apply in this case, so the "strengthening" won't pass to the next generation.
Hopefully this can turn into something good, but I have my doubts.
I, on the other hand, am very optimistic. This is a whole group of kids who will finally get to experience the outside world and will spend a good chunk of time away from their brainwashing parents. By the time they turn 18, they'll be far better equipped to survive in the outside world and will finally have gained an appreciation for just how aberrant their parents' actions are.
Now what we really need is for the government to do the same thing to mainline LDS families. Take those poor kids out of the brainwashing environment until they're 18, and the power of the cult will be destroyed in a single generation.
Wheat wrote:Now what we really need is for the government to do the same thing to mainline LDS families. Take those poor kids out of the brainwashing environment until they're 18, and the power of the cult will be destroyed in a single generation.
I hope the above is a joke.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
Wheat wrote:Now what we really need is for the government to do the same thing to mainline LDS families. Take those poor kids out of the brainwashing environment until they're 18, and the power of the cult will be destroyed in a single generation.
What???
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Wheat wrote:Now what we really need is for the government to do the same thing to mainline LDS families. Take those poor kids out of the brainwashing environment until they're 18, and the power of the cult will be destroyed in a single generation.
I hope the above is a joke.
A joke? Why?
I mean, now that the precedent has been established for taking care of these kinds of problems in the body politic, I say carry it to its logical conclusion. Let's excise the tumor before the malignancy grows any further. It was bad enough to see a Mormon make such a potent play for the presidency this year. If something isn't done soon, it will be too late.
Seriously, what's the big difference between the FLDS and the LDS? Sure, the FLDS sometimes marry off 14 year olds, but the LDS essentially imprison women for life with a program that keeps them bound to childbirth and ignorance. And besides, the deal in Texas isn't about 14 year old (or 16 or whatever) brides at all. I mean, the famous phone call that justified the initial raid was shown to be a hoax before the kids were even separated from their mothers. You don't need a "crime" to justify the good they're doing in Texas. All you need is public acquiescence. And I'm pretty sure we can count on that. Except in Utah of course. You might need a couple National Guard units to help out there. But you could start in Texas right now. They're all ready down there for this sort of thing. And if I'm not mistaken, I think there's a couple hundred thousand Mormons down there, so it would make a good trial run for the rest of the country.
Wheat wrote:I mean, now that the precedent has been established for taking care of these kinds of problems in the body politic, I say carry it to its logical conclusion. Let's excise the tumor before the malignancy grows any further.
That sounds vaguely familiar.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
Wheat wrote:Now what we really need is for the government to do the same thing to mainline LDS families. Take those poor kids out of the brainwashing environment until they're 18, and the power of the cult will be destroyed in a single generation.
I hope the above is a joke.
A joke? Why?
I mean, now that the precedent has been established for taking care of these kinds of problems in the body politic, I say carry it to its logical conclusion. Let's excise the tumor before the malignancy grows any further. It was bad enough to see a Mormon make such a potent play for the presidency this year. If something isn't done soon, it will be too late.
Seriously, what's the big difference between the FLDS and the LDS? Sure, the FLDS sometimes marry off 14 year olds, but the LDS essentially imprison women for life with a program that keeps them bound to childbirth and ignorance. And besides, the deal in Texas isn't about 14 year old (or 16 or whatever) brides at all. I mean, the famous phone call that justified the initial raid was shown to be a hoax before the kids were even separated from their mothers. You don't need a "crime" to justify the good they're doing in Texas. All you need is public acquiescence. And I'm pretty sure we can count on that. Except in Utah of course. You might need a couple National Guard units to help out there. But you could start in Texas right now. They're all ready down there for this sort of thing. And if I'm not mistaken, I think there's a couple hundred thousand Mormons down there, so it would make a good trial run for the rest of the country.
While I mostly agree with you, the problem is that mainstream moism is more insidious about its brainwashing. That actually makes it the more dangerous evil of the two, because your scenario will never happen, and the victims will just keep piling up.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
I mean, now that the precedent has been established for taking care of these kinds of problems in the body politic, I say carry it to its logical conclusion. Let's excise the tumor before the malignancy grows any further. It was bad enough to see a Mormon make such a potent play for the presidency this year. If something isn't done soon, it will be too late.
Seriously, what's the big difference between the FLDS and the LDS? Sure, the FLDS sometimes marry off 14 year olds, but the LDS essentially imprison women for life with a program that keeps them bound to childbirth and ignorance. And besides, the deal in Texas isn't about 14 year old (or 16 or whatever) brides at all. I mean, the famous phone call that justified the initial raid was shown to be a hoax before the kids were even separated from their mothers. You don't need a "crime" to justify the good they're doing in Texas. All you need is public acquiescence. And I'm pretty sure we can count on that. Except in Utah of course. You might need a couple National Guard units to help out there. But you could start in Texas right now. They're all ready down there for this sort of thing. And if I'm not mistaken, I think there's a couple hundred thousand Mormons down there, so it would make a good trial run for the rest of the country.
I would call your suggestion a perfect example of tyranny of the majority and a violation of the First Amendment.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
If so, how in the hell did it not shock and anger you?
It seems to me that Joseph Smith' polygamous practices is a sort of litmus test for True Believerism. If you can find a way to justify that, you can justify, rationalize, and even glorify (see Will S.) anything.
I don't need to justify what doesn't exist in my mind.
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO
I mean, now that the precedent has been established for taking care of these kinds of problems in the body politic, I say carry it to its logical conclusion. Let's excise the tumor before the malignancy grows any further. It was bad enough to see a Mormon make such a potent play for the presidency this year. If something isn't done soon, it will be too late.
Seriously, what's the big difference between the FLDS and the LDS? Sure, the FLDS sometimes marry off 14 year olds, but the LDS essentially imprison women for life with a program that keeps them bound to childbirth and ignorance. And besides, the deal in Texas isn't about 14 year old (or 16 or whatever) brides at all. I mean, the famous phone call that justified the initial raid was shown to be a hoax before the kids were even separated from their mothers. You don't need a "crime" to justify the good they're doing in Texas. All you need is public acquiescence. And I'm pretty sure we can count on that. Except in Utah of course. You might need a couple National Guard units to help out there. But you could start in Texas right now. They're all ready down there for this sort of thing. And if I'm not mistaken, I think there's a couple hundred thousand Mormons down there, so it would make a good trial run for the rest of the country.
Some Schmo wrote:While I mostly agree with you, the problem is that mainstream moism is more insidious about its brainwashing. That actually makes it the more dangerous evil of the two, because your scenario will never happen, and the victims will just keep piling up.
Gobsmacked.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
I mean, now that the precedent has been established for taking care of these kinds of problems in the body politic, I say carry it to its logical conclusion. Let's excise the tumor before the malignancy grows any further. It was bad enough to see a Mormon make such a potent play for the presidency this year. If something isn't done soon, it will be too late.
Seriously, what's the big difference between the FLDS and the LDS? Sure, the FLDS sometimes marry off 14 year olds, but the LDS essentially imprison women for life with a program that keeps them bound to childbirth and ignorance. And besides, the deal in Texas isn't about 14 year old (or 16 or whatever) brides at all. I mean, the famous phone call that justified the initial raid was shown to be a hoax before the kids were even separated from their mothers. You don't need a "crime" to justify the good they're doing in Texas. All you need is public acquiescence. And I'm pretty sure we can count on that. Except in Utah of course. You might need a couple National Guard units to help out there. But you could start in Texas right now. They're all ready down there for this sort of thing. And if I'm not mistaken, I think there's a couple hundred thousand Mormons down there, so it would make a good trial run for the rest of the country.
Some Schmo wrote:While I mostly agree with you, the problem is that mainstream moism is more insidious about its brainwashing. That actually makes it the more dangerous evil of the two, because your scenario will never happen, and the victims will just keep piling up.
Gobsmacked.
Indeed. With comments like these, I wonder who is the brainwashed one.