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_Mister Scratch
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Coggins7 wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:There are actually some good points here from TD and amantha. I would be interested in hearing Coggins explain away the elitism present in such doctrines as the 2nd Anointing. What is the point in being tested on Earth if you are going to get a free pass from the GAs? Further, the wealth and filial hierarchies within the institutional Church add another layer of complexity ont the whole thing.



Deleted this part, and it was painful to do so.


Too much of a coward, eh?
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I agree that the Plan of Salvation reads bizarre when you really stop to think about its true nature. The policeman (authority figure) is an interesting choice in your analogy. The authority figures do not want people to realize that what they are witnessing is a freak show and not a warm loving plan of happiness. The idea of the philosopher king has just that purpose -- to protect the "fragile psyches" of the small children in their charge saying, "move along, nothing to see here." And like the shadow on the cave wall, the crafty stories of potentially well-meaning leaders can be disorienting and bizarre when seen from a new direction. I imagine the best way to cope with that, at least initially, is through ridicule and denial.

Wake up!



Yes, I see it now. My next book will be entitled, "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Salt Lake".

This is another thread for the tin foil hat crowed here who's leader is Mr. Scratch and who's purpose has nothing to do with the analysis of serious ideas.
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_Coggins7
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Mister Scratch wrote:
Coggins7 wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:There are actually some good points here from TD and amantha. I would be interested in hearing Coggins explain away the elitism present in such doctrines as the 2nd Anointing. What is the point in being tested on Earth if you are going to get a free pass from the GAs? Further, the wealth and filial hierarchies within the institutional Church add another layer of complexity ont the whole thing.



Deleted this part, and it was painful to do so.


Too much of a coward, eh?




No, it just wasn't appropriate, even for you.
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_Coggins7
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And who's the coward here? Go to our respective profiles and take a look at the difference.
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_amantha
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Post by _amantha »

Coggins7 wrote:
I agree that the Plan of Salvation reads bizarre when you really stop to think about its true nature. The policeman (authority figure) is an interesting choice in your analogy. The authority figures do not want people to realize that what they are witnessing is a freak show and not a warm loving plan of happiness. The idea of the philosopher king has just that purpose -- to protect the "fragile psyches" of the small children in their charge saying, "move along, nothing to see here." And like the shadow on the cave wall, the crafty stories of potentially well-meaning leaders can be disorienting and bizarre when seen from a new direction. I imagine the best way to cope with that, at least initially, is through ridicule and denial.

Wake up!



Yes, I see it now. My next book will be entitled, "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Salt Lake".

This is another thread for the tin foil hat crowed here who's leader is Mr. Scratch and who's purpose has nothing to do with the analysis of serious ideas.



Your overt ridicule of the OP is telling.

“Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us.”


Thomas Jefferson

“Ridicule is the first and last argument of a fool”


Charles Simmons

“When a man curls his lip, when he uses ridicule, when he grows angry, you have touched a raw nerve in domination”


Sheila Rowbotham

“Ridicule is the best test of truth”


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Coggins7 wrote:And who's the coward here? Go to our respective profiles and take a look at the difference.


So, the fact that you include your hometown makes you some kind of exemplar of true integrity? I don't get it.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
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Trevor wrote:
Coggins7 wrote:And who's the coward here? Go to our respective profiles and take a look at the difference.


So, the fact that you include your hometown makes you some kind of exemplar of true integrity? I don't get it.


Yes, my hometown and my personal email address, which contains my personal email address. Any reply contains my real name as well as mail username. I've mentioned my real name a number of times here, as well as given, on at least one occasion, my full address.

Scratch is nothing but an anonymous provocateur who dare not reveal his true identity for fear of the consequences, and everyone who has ever dealt with him knows it.
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Coggins7 wrote:Yes, my hometown and my personal email address, which contains my personal email address. Any reply contains my real name as well as mail username. I've mentioned my real name a number of times here, as well as given, on at least one occasion, my full address.


Ah! OK. Why don't you use a personal picture for your avatar? You know, like this good old picture of you:


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“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
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"Trevor! Treeeeeeeeevor! Time to come home, its a school night..."
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Oh, my mistake, its Friday, which means you can stay up late and watch Sponge Bob and Shop Erotic as long as you keep the sound down...
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