Can a leftist be considered a faithful Latter Day Saint?

[_Droopy]

Point two?

[_Droopy]

Going back for another serving of macaroni and cheese? There's some Chicken fried Lecture Fifth, and over there is a few pieces of D&C 132 with wild rice and mushrooms.

Pick and choose as you will...

[_Jason Bourne]

1. Convenience abortion on demand (ideally federally funded) from the moment of conception to the moment the fetus enters the birth canal (essentially the legal extent of the Roe decision and the traditional position taken by NOW, NARL,and the Democratic Party (especially its leadership).

2. Full explicit sex education from the early grades, including frank discussion of sexual technique and the indoctrination of the young in morally relativistic concepts of human sexuality (including deviant sexual behavior such as male homosexuality, lesbianism, and transsexualism).

I think point one is opposed to LDS doctrine and do not understand how a believing LDS can support it. The democrats I know that are good LDS do not agree with this portion of the party platform.

I am opposed to teaching sex education at early ages and is some cases even in high school. I want to teach my children these things myself. However, as I understand many parents do not teach this I am willing to concede some education on this in the public schools at the appropriate ages. I think the ideals set forth in the proclamation on the family demonstrate the LDS position on item 2 would be against it.

[_Tarski]

Not a single serious, reflective, or challenging response to this thread so far.

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Your post was not serious. What do you expect?
You offer only absurd and childish strawmen versions of liberals. I would venture to say that you get all your information about liberal thought second hand from Rush.
Try representing mainstream liberal ideas by refering to their own words. Pick something out of Obama's book. Is there a part where he promotes abortions of mere convenience right up to 9th month? Is there a part where he promotes the destruction of the family or unqualified environmental determinism? What page?

[_Jason Bourne]

Going back for another serving of macaroni and cheese? There's some Chicken fried Lecture Fifth, and over there is a few pieces of D&C 132 with wild rice and mushrooms.

Pick and choose as you will...

You really are a legend in your own mind.

[_Droopy]

Your post was not serious. What do you expect?
You offer only absurd and childish strawmen versions of liberals. I would venture to say that you get all your information about liberal thought second hand from Rush.
Try representing mainstream liberal ideas by refering to their own words. Pick something out of Obama's book. Is there a part where he promotes abortions of mere convenience right up to 9th month? Is there a part where he promotes the destruction of the family or unqualified environmental determinism? What page?

Then enlighten me upon true liberal principles, instead of engaging in your usual juvenile literary pranks (and nobody knows what Obama believes, so how do you expect me to?).

The only plausible manner in which Obama's politics can be ascertained is by his association with the party in which those beliefs are standardized and accepted, and by his long standing personal associations and friendships (Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers etc.) and this does not appear promising.

From the statements he has made thus far regarding the degree to which he intends to alter, control, and dictate the manner in which we will be allowed to live our lives, up to and including the temperature we will be allowed to set our thermostats at and the kind of vehicles we will be allowed to drive (and, according to his wife, all the work we will be pressed into service by his grace to perform for our communities), as well as his long standing close associations, I would term him a revolutionary socialist, and a black cultural nationalist.

[_Droopy]

Going back for another serving of macaroni and cheese? There's some Chicken fried Lecture Fifth, and over there is a few pieces of D&C 132 with wild rice and mushrooms.

Pick and choose as you will...

You really are a legend in your own mind.

And time...

[_Tarski]

From the statements he has made thus far regarding the degree to which he intends to alter, control, and dictate the manner in which we will be allowed to live our lives, .

WHAT??
This from the guy who wants control and dictate sexual morality, and limit marriage to only the traditional forms?

I'll believe that you don't want to control peoples lives when you vote for the legalization of pot, stem cell research, and equal marital rights for gays and individual conscience concerning termination of fertilized ova.

Oh, you want to control alright. You want to mandate a Bible based society. You also want the right to ruin things for the rest of us who plan of having some use for trees and clean water well after you are expecting blond Jesus to come and clean up the smog and toxic pollution with a wink and a smile.

[_solomarineris]

Going back for another serving of macaroni and cheese? There's some Chicken fried Lecture Fifth, and over there is a few pieces of D&C 132 with wild rice and mushrooms.
Pick and choose as you will...

Droopy,
Please tell me that you believe in "Intelligent Design" truth.
IMHO, you're mocking LDS CULT, by mentioning D&C#132.
You're closet apostate.

PS: Send a private PM to Mr.Scratch & confess your sins.

[_bcspace]

To avoid a scattergun approach, I'll take a group of issues and beliefs traditionally supported and maintained by the Left, and open this up to a critique of the possibility of harmonizing these specific traditional leftist positions on these issues with the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Excellent thread Droopy. By now, everyone can see that no one wants to defend the left in this case because everyone knows that leftist doctrine is diametrically opposed to the LDS Church.