New *OFFICIAL* Church Website About Polygamy
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_quaker
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Aaron is Bill McKeever's adopted son.
What I have seen is that he spends his time loving the LDS by preaching against their beliefs in order to convert them to real Christianity. What I am interested in seeing is whether or not he cares to inform the atheists on this board why they are wrong, or if his purpose here is to associate with others who dislike Mormonism as much as he does.
What I have seen is that he spends his time loving the LDS by preaching against their beliefs in order to convert them to real Christianity. What I am interested in seeing is whether or not he cares to inform the atheists on this board why they are wrong, or if his purpose here is to associate with others who dislike Mormonism as much as he does.
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_harmony
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quaker wrote:Aaron is Bill McKeever's adopted son.
What I have seen is that he spends his time loving the LDS by preaching against their beliefs in order to convert them to real Christianity. What I am interested in seeing is whether or not he cares to inform the atheists on this board why they are wrong, or if his purpose here is to associate with others who dislike Mormonism as much as he does.
Who is Bill McKeever?
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_Jason Bourne
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harmony wrote:quaker wrote:Aaron is Bill McKeever's adopted son.
What I have seen is that he spends his time loving the LDS by preaching against their beliefs in order to convert them to real Christianity. What I am interested in seeing is whether or not he cares to inform the atheists on this board why they are wrong, or if his purpose here is to associate with others who dislike Mormonism as much as he does.
Who is Bill McKeever?
A notorious anti Mormon EV type.
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_Jason Bourne
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harmony wrote:Jason Bourne wrote:A notorious anti Mormon EV type.
What makes him notorious? His argument or his offensive behavior?
Oh I don't know. He is a typical EV anti. I have little use for most of them. Rather prolific.
You can see his web site here:
http://www.mrm.org/
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_Mercury
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aaronshaf wrote:Since MormonsAndPolygamy.org down, everyone can go to MormonismAndPolygamy.org for now :)
Hey Douchie, have you applied your own reasoning to your own faith? The Bible is just as implausible as the Book of Mormon.
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_Sethbag
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EV-type critics I think are some of the ones who make so many LDS really smug in their belief that the critics have no point. An EV-type critic will often attack the church based on their own interpretation of the Bible, and that is doomed to fail. The LDS will not accept the EV's interpretation of the Bible, and since these things aren't subject really to reasoned dispute in a non-biased way, the LDS will simply assume he's won and move on (the EV-type will assume the same thing). Even when EV-type critics offer up what might be called "secular" criticism of the church, based not on theology but on historical happenings and facts, their lack of credibility with LDS on a theological basis undercuts the message.
It simply doesn't work to put all of the Joseph Smith crap out there and then back it up with "now that you know the LDS church is false, come to us to worship the real Jesus." That's one of my prime disappointments with respect to "By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus". It's got all this great stuff demonstrating why the Book of Abraham appears to be an invention of Joseph Smith, and then follows it up with an invitation to accept evangelical Christianity instead. Evangelical Christianity is no more credible as a system of beliefs that is true than Mormonism is.
It simply doesn't work to put all of the Joseph Smith crap out there and then back it up with "now that you know the LDS church is false, come to us to worship the real Jesus." That's one of my prime disappointments with respect to "By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus". It's got all this great stuff demonstrating why the Book of Abraham appears to be an invention of Joseph Smith, and then follows it up with an invitation to accept evangelical Christianity instead. Evangelical Christianity is no more credible as a system of beliefs that is true than Mormonism is.
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_Trevor
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It is a common error of thought, which LDS folk also engage in, to believe that something must be more true if it is more ancient. The idea that the Bible must be true, while the Book of Mormon must be false, relies to no small degree upon this error. The simple fact is that it is possible that there is little of factual merit in the New Testament. The fact that so many people have taken it seriously for so long makes small difference in regard to its actual factual value.
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_John Larsen
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Sethbag wrote: Evangelical Christianity is no more credible as a system of beliefs that is true than Mormonism is.
I find Mormonism to be the more compelling of the the two. If forced to choose, I would go with the Mormons. Like you suggest, the EV's do much to keep many questioning people in the Church because they think that is the alternative to their Mormon faith.