SL Trib's Kirby on the calendar excommunication

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_harmony
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KimberlyAnn wrote:
Gazelam wrote:Porter,

isn't the real reason the guy was excommunicated because he's a fag? I mean, if your gonna make a calender, why do it with a bunch of 21 year old guys with their shirts off? Maybe he's not a fag, but a calender like this sure doesent point the opinion in the other direction does it?

Also, how many of the "models" got ex'd ?

gaz


Gaz, you are outrageously bigoted.

KA


And he's wrong. And late. Again.

Geez, Gaz. Keep up already!
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isn't the real reason the guy was excommunicated because he's a fag?



While uncalled for and outside Church standards regarding those suffering from SSA, political incorrectness at this level of intensity deserves at least some commendation.
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KimberlyAnn wrote:
Gazelam wrote:Porter,

isn't the real reason the guy was excommunicated because he's a fag? I mean, if your gonna make a calender, why do it with a bunch of 21 year old guys with their shirts off? Maybe he's not a fag, but a calender like this sure doesent point the opinion in the other direction does it?

Also, how many of the "models" got ex'd ?

gaz


Gaz, you are outrageously bigoted.

KA



Just look at probably 90% of Kimberlyann's posts since she's been here regarding the Brethren, Joseph Smith, Church moral standards etc., to see who the "bigot" really is.

Gaz may represent one form, but other forms are consistently on display in the reptile house at Mormondiscussions.com.
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Droopy wrote:Incorrect. There is no godly "killing" in any manner that could be said to equate with what happens when one human being unlawfully kills another.


The verb "kill" means "to cause death". In LDS terms, this is physical death, which is the separation of the body and the spirit. So, if God physically damages a human body to the point where the spirit separates from it, God has killed that person. If God commands a person to render another person's mortal body uninhabitable, God has commanded the killing of that person. If a person does this, but it's contrary to God's command, that's also killing. The word doesn't contain any judgement of lawfulness or morality. That's why we have words like "murder" and "cleansing".

Droopy wrote:True, the wicked are completely and utterly wiped off the face of the earth, but why is this cause for alarm (unless you are one of them)? There is then no more evil, no more immorality, no more crime, no more addiction, no more human misery caused by the evil human beings do to each other and/or foist indirectly on others through the poor or reckless use of their agency.


God is reported to have done this before, by submerging the bodies of all the wicked people in water to deprive them of oxygen until their brains were too damaged for their spirits to inhabit them. That would be killing.

Droopy wrote:I'm not sure what is meant by the term "kill" in this context. The bodies of the wicked will be annihilated, but their spirits will live on, eternally. God cannot "kill" anyone in any absolute sense.


If the continued existence of immortal spirits means that God can't kill mortal beings, then it also means that mortal beings can't kill each other. If this is true, then what's left for the word "kill" to describe?

The scriptures teach that, generally, people should not kill each other, and that when God kills people he is morally justified. As I said before, these teachings are found in both the Old Testament and the New Testament.
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Post by _Gazelam »

Droopy wrote:
isn't the real reason the guy was excommunicated because he's a fag?



While uncalled for and outside Church standards regarding those suffering from SSA, political incorrectness at this level of intensity deserves at least some commendation.


The correct response from a church perspective would be the tried and true Blood Atonement Doctrine, but we can't expect to see this come into play anytime before the second coming.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
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