Gaz advocates death by blood atonement for Chad Hardy?

[_Gazelam]

Angus,

So your big come back is esentially "nuh uh! You are!"? Clownshoes...

Wakka wakka

[_asbestosman]

I advocate it because if a member (One who knows the doctrine beforehand) chooses to be a homosexual and refuses to repent, they are in a sinful condition. To remain this way is to inflict further destruction and a future punishment upon their soul. Ending their mortal condition is to do them a favor in that it is ending their state of mortal probation. Obviously in the case of homosexuality they will be unable to act upon their sinful nature, and therefore they cannot continue to break the law of chastity. A law second only to murder.

as far as I know, the brethren advocate nothing of the kind. That said, what other sins do you think are good for blood atonement? Child abuse (I might go in on that one)? Alcohol? Failing to pay a full tithe? Pornography--perhaps on the second offense?

[_Gadianton]

Gaz,

That's the great thing about religion, isn't it? You can believe that God wants to kill people over your personal pet peeves.

[_Jersey Girl]

Gaz,

Please clarify blood atonement for me. Who does the killing?

Jersey

[_Gazelam]

Asbestosman,

Child abuse (I might go in on that one)? : I think the scriptural response to this as stated by Christ is that they should have a millstone hung around their neck and thrown into the ocean.


Alcohol?: I think there is far to much emphasis placed on the word of wisdom. I think it funny that so much emphasis is placed on alcohol and tobbaco and the large part about eating right and excercising is completely ignored. I see these commandments as introductory commandments, where a child reared in the church can say that they were obedient to these small ones, so the larger ones can also be accomplished. Punishable by death? No, just disfellowship.

Failing to pay a full tithe? Tithing is all about seperating oneself from desiring worldly things. It creates a mindset that heaven is more important than this world. Punishable by death? No, just disfellowship.

Pornography--perhaps on the second offense?
Your too vague here. Are you talking about the consumption of it, or the creation of it?

[_Gazelam]

Gaz,

That's the great thing about religion, isn't it? You can believe that God wants to kill people over your personal pet peeves.

My personal pet peeve? You need me to quote some scriptures for you on the law of chastity? Maybe a few conference talks? I have a personal favorite from a BYU address I could link for you.

[_Jersey Girl]

Gaz,

That's the great thing about religion, isn't it? You can believe that God wants to kill people over your personal pet peeves.

My personal pet peeve? You need me to quote some scriptures for you on the law of chastity? Maybe a few conference talks? I have a personal favorite from a BYU address I could link for you.

What do you mean law of chastity? What if the gay persons are legally married?

[_asbestosman]

Pornography--perhaps on the second offense?
Your too vague here. Are you talking about the consumption of it, or the creation of it?

You mean you have a different answer depeding on which I had in mind? Well, I had in mind both.

Please be sure to discuss Mariott in any response you give. ;)

[_Gazelam]

Gaz,

Please clarify blood atonement for me. Who does the killing?

Jersey

I'm at my in-laws at the moment, so I don't have my notes on it to give you a proper responce. To my understanding it exists solely in a time of a religious government. An unrepentant person who has made covenants to their God and is actively seeking to tear down the church and or tear down doctrines and promote an unchaste lifestyle is taken and executed in order to save their own souls. (As I stated before)

I can't remember if this is an actual ordinance. I only studied it out once, and you know how good my memory is. I believe it involves a pre-dug grave, and the persons throught is slit and they are to bleed out before burial.

Gaz

[_Gazelam]

Pornography--perhaps on the second offense?
Your too vague here. Are you talking about the consumption of it, or the creation of it?

You mean you have a different answer depeding on which I had in mind? Well, I had in mind both.

Please be sure to discuss Mariott in any response you give. ;)

I think someone who actively watches and or reads pornography should be excommunicated.

People who create pornography and are members of the church, particularly those who have been through the temple, would be candidates.


Marriot should be disfellowshiped until he removes the pornography from his hotels.