What is the 'Traditional Definition' of Marriage?

[_antishock8]

Well. If religionists want to be literal about things... The traditional role of marriage has to be incestuous. If Adam and Eve procreated and had children either Adam had sex with his own daughters, Eve had sex with her sons, or their children had sex with each other.

So. Yeah. That's pretty gross. But it's Biblical.

I find it odd religionists are so up in arms about homosexuals, but they fail to realize their own system of marriage started with some serious incest... Which, under God, apparently was cool because at least through Lot getting drunk and having sex with one's own daughters was sanctified.

So. Yeah. Compared to homosexuality, Biblical marriage and heterosexual sex is vile.

[_Jersey Girl]

Nearly all of the People throughout History have Traditionally viewed Marriage, as between a man and a Woman.

Bracki,

I don't know about nearly all people however, I can tell you that the ancient Greeks participated in same sex marriage. Just some bit of trivia I came across!

Jersey Girl
:-)

[_asbestosman]

Maybe we need a definition of human.

Good point. Are Mormons human? Are Mormons humane?

[_asbestosman]

I still think we should start a petition for the legal definition of man and woman.

Uh, hasn't that already been done? Proposition 8, anyone?

Did it actually define the terms "man" and "woman", or only "marriage"? If the terms "man" and "woman" weren't actually defined in Proposition 8, then redefining them provides a way to allow gays to marry be labeling one in the marriage as "man" and the other as "woman".

[_Bryan Inks]

Ah, yes. Traditional marriage. When your Fief Lord decides, for purposes of increasing his work force, that you - a pig farmer on his estate - will marry one of the slop women who cleans out the castle cess pit. It doesn't matter which one. So, he bribes the Arch-Bishop to bind you in marriage and the King, who happens to be passing through the village on his way to a witch burning, takes advantage of the right of Prima Noctes to deflower your bride. Then, you have eleven children, three of whom survive, before dying of the plague at age 26. Tradition!

[_Brackite]

Nearly all of the People throughout History have Traditionally viewed Marriage, as between a man and a Woman.

Prove it.

The history of Marriage:
http://www.essortment.com/all/historyofmarri_rimr.htm



Jewish views of marriage:

In Jewish law (halakha), betrothal (Hebrew: shiddukhin‎) or engagement is defined as the mutual promise between a man and a woman to contract a marriage at some future time and the formulation of the terms on which it shall take place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_of_marriage



History of Marriage:
http://marriage.about.com/cs/generalhis ... istory.htm



History - Ancient Egyptian Marriage
FAQs Index:
http://marriage.about.com/cs/ancientegyptian/f/



Question: How did the ancient Egyptians deal with infidelity?

Answer: Although adultery was condemned, infidelity by a wife was more severely judged than if a husband strayed.
Polygamy was very rare because few men could afford to support two wives and two families.
Monogamy was the norm for most ancient Egyptian marriages.

http://marriage.about.com/cs/ancientegy ... gyfaq1.htm



Hindu teaching and customs of marriage:

Institution of Marriage: Marriage is generally a union between a male and a female with a commitment so that they can pursue Dharma, Artha (possessions) and Kama (physical desires) together. It also joins two families.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_teac ... f_marriage




The Traditional definition of Marriage is indeed one man and one woman. And It is as Simple as that.

Matthew 19:4-6: (New International Version):

4 "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'[a] 5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? [b]6 So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

Jacob 2:27:

[27] Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;

[_ludwigm]

Maybe we need a definition of human.

Good point. Are Mormons human? Are Mormons humane?

At this time I didn't think about Mormons. I did think about people.


There were a scifi novel, I don't remember the author or the title. The story is:
Scientists discover a tribe, a very primitive one. The members look like primates/monkeys (in hungarian, we use the same word for them ...) but they are speaking, are writing - even in very primitive way - and live as society.
The world handle them as animals. The main character of the novel wants to handle them as humans but fails.
His last step:
He marries a female one of the tribe (not a woman).
Some time after, he kills that creature and its(??) brood.

The jury should decide, was it a murder against humans - or was it a kill against animals.

[_Danna]

The problem is we've made it public and given ourselves "wedding fingers" and all this other nonsense.

Wedding finger?
I thought I was fairly up to speed with strange American customs, but you have got me there.

[_Danna]

There were a scifi novel, I don't remember the author or the title. The story is:
Scientists discover a tribe, a very primitive one. The members look like primates/monkeys (in hungarian, we use the same word for them ...) but they are speaking, are writing - even in very primitive way - and live as society.
The world handle them as animals. The main character of the novel wants to handle them as humans but fails.
His last step:
He marries a female one of the tribe (not a woman).
Some time after, he kills that creature and its(??) brood.

The jury should decide, was it a murder against humans - or was it a kill against animals.

A main definition of a species is a group of animals that can interbreed. So if your hero can breed with the primates and produce offspring that can also breed with each other and the two parent species, then they are the same species.

(of course, somebody had to go and discover 'ring' species after this neat little definition, but it sort of works with comparing two groups.)

[_Danna]

The Traditional definition of Marriage is indeed one man and one woman. And It is as Simple as that.

Maybe not. Looks like it may be an Abrahamic foible.