Question For Mudcat.

[_TAK]

isn't Mudcat and Nehor the same person ?

[_Scottie]

Um, BC, we already know the age of the earth, and that evolution is a fact.

Since when??



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[_antishock8]

Um, BC, we already know the age of the earth, and that evolution is a fact.

Since when??



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The "theory" of evolution is as much a "theory" as is the "theory" of gravity, both of which are backed up with hard facts. To question either one as being implausible is a reflection of the questioner, not the "theory".

[_Jason Bourne]

Is Mudcat an EV Christian then?

I have a question I need from a conservative Christian point of view.

If Adam and Eve were not real people, and there was not a real fall, what does this do to a need for a Savior to redeem us?

[_Mudcat]

isn't Mudcat and Nehor the same person ?

No, Nehor is LDS
Mudcat is an Evangelical.

[_Mudcat]

Is Mudcat an EV Christian then?

I have a question I need from a conservative Christian point of view.

If Adam and Eve were not real people, and there was not a real fall, what does this do to a need for a Savior to redeem us?

Sure I am an EV, I am fairly conservative on politics, but not religion so I don't that I can give you the answer you are looking for.....
But...If man did not breach the relationship between God and man, then there would be no need for a Savior. I do think that Adam and Eve were real, at least in the sense that they were the first representatives of humanity.

[_Jason Bourne]

Sure I am an EV, I am fairly conservative on politics, but not religion so I don't that I can give you the answer you are looking for.....
But...If man did not breach the relationship between God and man, then there would be no need for a Savior. I do think that Adam and Eve were real, at least in the sense that they were the first representatives of humanity.

So if there were no Adam and Eve and there was no fall then the idea of needing Jesus as our savior is false and thus Christianity is not needed and a false religion. Correct?

[_Mudcat]

So if there were no Adam and Eve and there was no fall then the idea of needing Jesus as our savior is false and thus Christianity is not needed and a false religion. Correct?

That would be correct, however I would also point out that there would be no humans if there weren't the first humans so its sort of a moot point in my opinion.

[_Ray A]

Here's a report that might provoke some thought:

Chimp vs. human DNA: what's in the 1% difference

ITHACA, N.Y. -- Nearly 99 percent alike in genetic makeup, chimpanzees and humans might be even more similar were it not for what researchers call "lifestyle" changes in the 6 million years that separate us from a common ancestor. Specifically, two key differences are how humans and chimps perceive smells and what we eat.

A massive gene-comparison project involving two Cornell University scientists, and reported in the latest issue of the journal Science (Dec. 12, 2003), found these and many other differences in a search for evidence of accelerated evolution and positive selection in the genetic history of humans and chimps.

See link above for full article.

[_Ray A]

Hmmm...I'll have to do some shopping for This one.

If you want proof that God didn’t cause human evolution, this book is as near as you are going to get to finding that proof.

Scientists today can take you back 3 billion years through the Genetic Code (DNA) to the origins of life, but to this day they don't know how it started. Creationists will say God created DNA, and science can't dispute it.

The big bang theory is also examined.

Charles Darwin wrote the Origin of the Species explaining the theory of evolution in the last century. Richard Dawkins wrote The God Delusion saying people that believed in God were deluding themselves.
This book studies these theories and examines Moses and his God, and the results are simply shocking. If there is some higher existence that created everything, then this book proves that it isn't the God of Moses.
The Real Moses
(New Theory of Life)