Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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Re: Getting "Comped," Mopologetic Style?

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LifeOnaPlate wrote:
I'm certainly not DCP and do not see why such an assertion would be made.

That being said, enjoy your discount.


Why would that kind of assertion be made? As long as we're playing conspiracy theory make believe, this thread is open for any and all assertions.

In fact, while at the FAIR conference, I never saw you two in the same room together. *more sinister music*
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DCP wrote:Some here will want to be aware of the newly-published book A Great Mystery: The Secret of the Jerusalem Temple: The Embracing Cherubim and At-One-Ment with the Divine (Piscataway, New Jersey: Gorgias Press, 2008).

Written by the late Dr. Eugene Seaich of Salt Lake City, whom some of us knew, the book argues that, in the view of those who built the ancient Jerusalem temple, humans become divine through spiritual union with God -- a union that was represented by what he contends was the marital embrace of the cherubim in Solomon's sanctuary, which itself represented a sacred marriage. The book has been kicking about in manuscript form for quite some time, but, thanks to the efforts of my friend Bryan Thomas, of Denver, has finally seen the light of day in print.
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http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=40249
Already, this post is interesting. Here we have someone, apparently a friend of The Good Professor's, who was "kicking about" an apparently unpopular manuscript, and whose book embraced a theory which (coincidentally?) manages to support certain Mopologetic claims. Furthermore, one of DCP's friends helped to get the book published.


Dan

Make sure you report that $62.50 to IRS. I have no doubt that this huge enrichment will be an issue for Scratch and he may turn you in.

by the way, Dr. Eugene Seaich was somewhat of a hobby LDS apologist and a fine man. It seems to me to make sense that he wrote a book that "manages to support certain Mopologetic claims." I know that Dan knew Gene. Why would he not try to assist in getting it published. Only in Scratch's mind could this be construed as maliciously evil and motivated by some sort of subterfuge.


Was this a 50% discount given over to all symposium participants, or did The Good Professor receive a special, Mopologetic discount, as it were, due to his special "connections"? At the very least, I think that one cannot help but marvel at the incredible series of social networks, price gouging, coincidences, gossip, and behind-the-scenes deal-making that brought this book into being. Just think: this book would never have been published had it not been for DCP's "friend," and furthermore, notice how the premise of the book neatly supports a key Mopologetic argument. And, DCP managed to score a whopping 50% discount on it to boot!


You bet! Dan's sole purpose was to get it published so he could save a whooping $62.50 on the book!

It turns out that even the endorsements on the back cover of the book have deep Mopologetic connections:

DCP wrote:The book is endorsed on the back cover by Margaret Barker and the late Raphael Patai, and it features a foreword by Steve Wiggins, whom I especially appreciate because of his important work on the goddess Asherah: A Reassessment of 'Asherah': A Study according to the Textual Sources of the First Two Millennia B.C.E (Neukirchen-Fluyn: Neukirchener Verlag, 1993).


We all know who Margaret Barker is, if only from K. Shirts's endless name dropping in his now-infamous YouTube films: "Bill Hamblin's in Oxford! He's meeting with Margaret Barker! Say hello to Bill Hamblin! He's in Oxford!"


Margaret Baker is connected and involved in LDS apologetics? I am sure she would be surprised.

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I have to say, there are an awful lot of astonishing coincidences here.  One wonders if Mopologetics is possible *without* a network of "back-slapping bros."


Absolutely astonishing.
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I'm certainly astonished.
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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I have to admit 125$ is a lot of money, especially in these difficult times. I feel some sympathy for those mid-tier or junior apologists who, on top of tithing, feel the pressure to keep up with all the book buying in order to have a chance of stepping up to the plate and defending the church. Apologetics is just one of those endeavors that can really suck the life out of a person in so many ways. It would be inhumane for me not to have a little sympathy for their difficult position.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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Gadianton wrote:I have to admit 125$ is a lot of money, especially in these difficult times. I feel some sympathy for those mid-tier or junior apologists who, on top of tithing, feel the pressure to keep up with all the book buying in order to have a chance of stepping up to the plate and defending the church. Apologetics is just one of those endeavors that can really suck the life out of a person in so many ways. It would be inhumane for me not to have a little sympathy for their difficult position.


I agree. I think we need to bear in mind the fact that well-compensated apologists like Bob Crockett and DCP frequently boast about how many books they've read, how well-stocked their personal libraries are, and so on. Heck, even LifeOnaPlate often brags that he reads "a book a week." And let's not forgot K. Shirts's weird, almost orgiastic fetishization of the BYU book collection.
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Gadianton wrote:I have to admit 125$ is a lot of money, especially in these difficult times. I feel some sympathy for those mid-tier or junior apologists who, on top of tithing, feel the pressure to keep up with all the book buying in order to have a chance of stepping up to the plate and defending the church. Apologetics is just one of those endeavors that can really suck the life out of a person in so many ways. It would be inhumane for me not to have a little sympathy for their difficult position.



AMEN TO THAT!
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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Mister Scratch wrote:I agree. I think we need to bear in mind the fact that well-compensated apologists like Bob Crockett and DCP frequently boast about how many books they've read, how well-stocked their personal libraries are, and so on. Heck, even LifeOnaPlate often brags that he reads "a book a week." And let's not forgot K. Shirts's weird, almost orgiastic fetishization of the BYU book collection.



Often, yes.

Bibliophiles the lot of them. Some apparently get kushy deals though. Which is all the more reason for me to reach for that higher mopologetic bracket.
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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LoP,

Laugh it up all you want. But keep in mind, it was you yourself who recently admitted that your obsession with reading -- to keep up with the mopologetic status quo -- would make you an unfit parent. This is what you told all of us freely, no one was trying to pry information out of you. It would seem then, that the mopologetic lifestyle has brought you into direct conflict with the Prophets' commands on raising a family. I would also be interested if you served a 2 year mission for the Lord. I know of at least one young apologist who I won't name at this point, some here may know who he is, that freely admitted the lofty education he had obtained as an aspiring apologist kept him from going on a mission. He felt it would be too difficult to associate with all the other Elders who would know so much less about the church than he did. (on could read that as the difficulty Internet Mormons have associating with Chapel Mormons).

This is a serious, grave matter, with real financial as well as spiritual consequences.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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Gadianton wrote:LoP,

Laugh it up all you want. But keep in mind, it was you yourself who recently admitted that your obsession with reading -- to keep up with the mopologetic status quo -- would make you an unfit parent.


Who said anything about mopologetic status quo? Reading is FUNdamental.

This is what you told all of us freely, no one was trying to pry information out of you. It would seem then, that the mopologetic lifestyle has brought you into direct conflict with the Prophets' commands on raising a family.


I know that little ribs like that are lost on you. Pity, that.

I would also be interested if you served a 2 year mission for the Lord. I know of at least one young apologist who I won't name at this point, some here may know who he is, that freely admitted the lofty education he had obtained as an aspiring apologist kept him from going on a mission. He felt it would be too difficult to associate with all the other Elders who would know so much less about the church than he did. (on could read that as the difficulty Internet Mormons have associating with Chapel Mormons).


That's odd. I served a mission, yes. Enjoyed it quite a bit for the most part. I don't know who you are talking about in regards to some aspiring apologist, though. I get along pretty fine with "Chapel Mormons." Leprechauns, too.

This is a serious, grave matter, with real financial as well as spiritual consequences.


You're telling me!
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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(Moderator edit from harmony: comment moved to Telestial for content violation)

Yea! I think it worked! Except this is in the wrong place. Oh well.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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