Church created political front groups?

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_John Larsen
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rcrocket wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:Really, I see no reason why the Church should continue to keep its tax-exempt status in light of this.


Perhaps too we can also get the tax exempt status of the Catholic Church revoked for its unstinting and organized opposition to the death penalty -- even going so far as to excommunicating or threatening to excommunicate Catholic communicants who are legislators who support the death penalty. And, also, the Catholics' repeated interference in Latin America with politics dealing with indigenous peoples.

And then there's the long history of the Baptists organized to pass blue laws and dry county laws; they should be investigated and their tax exempt status revoked.

And then I wonder why the LDS Church's tax exempt status wasn't attacked during the Reagan administration for opposing the MX Missile. What a travesty that was; had it not been for that we could have a huge second-strike missile capability located in Utah with all of its jobs and benefits.

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One of the things that bothers me the most about these letters is the tone. These writings are practically dripping with a kind of smug arrogance. The voice here is the voice of men who think they can manipulate all manner of things with out a care in the world, and that they can do it all beneath a blanket of secrecy, and get away with it all.
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rcrocket wrote:Perhaps too we can also get the tax exempt status of the Catholic Church revoked for its unstinting and organized opposition to the death penalty -- even going so far as to excommunicating or threatening to excommunicate Catholic communicants who are legislators who support the death penalty. And, also, the Catholics' repeated interference in Latin America with politics dealing with indigenous peoples.

And then there's the long history of the Baptists organized to pass blue laws and dry county laws; they should be investigated and their tax exempt status revoked.

And then I wonder why the LDS Church's tax exempt status wasn't attacked during the Reagan administration for opposing the MX Missile. What a travesty that was; had it not been for that we could have a huge second-strike missile capability located in Utah with all of its jobs and benefits.


You're only fueling the fire, Crock. No one here is giving a free ride to the Catholics, the Baptists, or the LDS church, when they stick their fingers into politics. (except I don't think anyone cares over much about what happens outside our boundaries)
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Mister Scratch wrote:One of the things that bothers me the most about these letters is the tone. These writings are practically dripping with a kind of smug arrogance. The voice here is the voice of men who think they can manipulate all manner of things with out a care in the world, and that they can do it all beneath a blanket of secrecy, and get away with it all.


They care. They care about keeping their actions secret. And the members enable them. They couldn't do it, if we didn't allow it.

Our leaders have taken one of the abominations in the Book of Mormon and turned it into an art form. And since when has humility in one of their equals ever been a component admired by the Brethren?

And people wonder why my cynicism is so deep when anything comes out of the Church Office Building?
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I always thought "Front Groups" political or otherwise, were the hallmark of such as the Unification Church (Moonies) and Scientology!
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Ephraimsdaughter wrote:I always thought "Front Groups" political or otherwise, were the hallmark of such as the Unification Church (Moonies) and Scientology!


Stick around. Ya learn something every day here.
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rcrocket wrote:Perhaps too we can also get the tax exempt status of the Catholic Church revoked for its unstinting and organized opposition to the death penalty. . .

Sounds like a great idea.

And, also, the Catholics' repeated interference in Latin America with politics dealing with indigenous peoples.

Another great idea.

And then there's the long history of the Baptists organized to pass blue laws and dry county laws; they should be investigated and their tax exempt status revoked.

I agree 100%.

And then I wonder why the LDS Church's tax exempt status wasn't attacked during the Reagan administration for opposing the MX Missile.

Too bad it wasn't done.

What a travesty that was; had it not been for that we could have a huge second-strike missile capability located in Utah with all of its jobs and benefits.

Excellent point. I wholeheartedly agree.
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Simple. If gays can legally marry, then the church will look really, really bad when they excommunicate a gay person when he/she is legally married.


I believe that the legalization of SSM will eventually open the door to legalization of other alternate marital systems, like polygamy. Imagine how the church would look excommunicating polygamists!
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beastie wrote:Imagine how the church would look excommunicating polygamists!

Eh, mainstream? I mean, I suspect that Catholics and Baptists would do the same thing.
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Ephraimsdaughter wrote:I always thought "Front Groups" political or otherwise, were the hallmark of such as the Unification Church (Moonies) and Scientology!


Don't forget the RNC.

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