Mormon Gulag Short Film

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Eric wrote:
Inconceivable, thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've long since given up on catering to the LDS crowd. As you can see from the comments by "why me," simply using black and white footage qualifies the film (which he hasn't seen completely) as "anti-Mormon propaganda" for these people.


And your reason for using black and white footage was....??? Perhaps it was to give the film a more errie feeling???
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Eric wrote:By the way, isn't "why me" Kerry Shirts, author of the Backyard Professor cinematic abortions on YouTube?


No, he isn't. Kerry posted as "Just Me" and he would have never made such a negative remark to you. Never.

And my remark was negative? I think that my remark was critical but not negative. You need to understand the difference between negative and critical.
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why me wrote:What is your problem then?


I suppose my problem is I thought you were Kerry Shirts so I responded to your post. Had I known that you were just another nameless, abrasive, and often nasty Internet Mormon, I would have never gifted you with a retort.

I promised myself that I wouldn't allow my opinion of Mormon people and culture to be muddied by the ugliness put forth by their online representatives. You can read more about the reasons why on this thread

So, unfortunately for you, this is where our "back and forth" ends.

Have a nice day :exclaim:
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Anyone interested can now watch the film for free at www.MormonGulag.com.


Best,

Eric
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Eric wrote:
So, unfortunately for you, this is where our "back and forth" ends.

Have a nice day :exclaim:

If the state is looking into it, I don't see a problem. They will either find for your case or they will see no case. It will be up to the legal authorities to see if you have a case. And that is the way it should be. Good luck in your case. If abuse was going on, people deserve to be punished.
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why me wrote:If abuse was going on, people deserve to be punished.


This is the position that most reasonable people would take. I am convinced that abuse was going on, and may still be to some extent. I haven't formed this opinion through prayer, or "feeling", but by reading and listening to eyewitness accounts, and also reading the Westridge policies, which in my opinion leave open the possibility for abuse without full accountability. Maybe you haven't read them.

in my opinion Eric's critics are the agenda-laden ones. I would like to see some heads roll over this, beginning with Buttars. His silly and prejudiced public statements on some social issues should give a clue to the type of man he is.
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Gadianton wrote:Beware, I'm thinking the apologists are waiting by their phones right now for further instructions from Salt Lake City on how to proceed.

????

Speaking for myself and the Maxwell Institute, we have absolutely no dog in this fight. I know effectively nothing about West Ridge Academy, and have no views on it one way or the other -- except that, if civil or criminal offenses have occurred, they should be appropriately handled by the authorities, and, if they haven't, the names of the people who've been accused should be cleared.

I don't know whether anybody else at the Maxwell Institute has ever even heard of West Ridge Academy. So far as I'm aware, the name of the place has never passed the lips of anyone connected with the Institute. Certainly the Academy has never been mentioned in any Institute meeting or publication that I can recall. It has nothing to do with us. We have nothing to do with it.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Gadianton wrote:Beware, I'm thinking the apologists are waiting by their phones right now for further instructions from Salt Lake City on how to proceed.

????

Speaking for myself and the Maxwell Institute, we have absolutely no dog in this fight. I know effectively nothing about West Ridge Academy, and have no views on it one way or the other -- except that, if civil or criminal offenses have occurred, they should be appropriately handled by the authorities, and, if they haven't, the names of the people who've been accused should be cleared.

I don't know whether anybody else at the Maxwell Institute has ever even heard of West Ridge Academy. So far as I'm aware, the name of the place has never passed the lips of anyone connected with the Institute. Certainly the Academy has never been mentioned in any Institute meeting or publication that I can recall. It has nothing to do with us. We have nothing to do with it.


Perhaps Gad was not referring to you or MI?
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harmony wrote:Perhaps Gad was not referring to you or MI?

Perhaps.

Perhaps he was referring to FAIR.

But a search of the FAIR website turns up no occurrences of either Utah Boys Ranch or West Ridge Academy or Eric Norwood.

Is there any reason to suspect that FAIR has even the slightest connection with WRA? Any reason to believe that anybody at FAIR is "waiting by the phone"? Any reason to believe that Salt Lake is depending upon FAIR in this matter?

It seems not.

So, if the apologists he has in mind aren't at FAIR and aren't at the Maxwell Institute or FARMS, just who, exactly, is Gadianton talking about?
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
harmony wrote:Perhaps Gad was not referring to you or MI?

Perhaps.

Perhaps he was referring to FAIR.

But a search of the FAIR website turns up no occurrences of either Utah Boys Ranch or West Ridge Academy or Eric Norwood.

Is there any reason to suspect that FAIR has even the slightest connection with WRA? Any reason to believe that anybody at FAIR is "waiting by the phone"? Any reason to believe that Salt Lake is depending upon FAIR in this matter?

It seems not.

So, if the apologists he has in mind aren't at FAIR and aren't at the Maxwell Institute or FARMS, just who, exactly, is Gadianton talking about?


Are FAIR and MI the only LDS apologists? Is that what you're saying?
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