Lake Bonniville Proves Noah's Flood

[_Nightlion]

Salt and other minerals are dissolved into the water from the rocks and sand and dirt and whatnot that it travels through after it rains down, collects into streams, then rivers, and into lakes. Most lakes drain eventually into the sea, so the mineral content of this water is carried with it down to the ocean, and doesn't build up continually in these lakes.

Lakes that don't drain, however, build up minerals continually. It doesn't sound like a lot, after all, if you drank some river water flowing into one of these lakes, it wouldn't taste salty. However, if it flows in day after day, month after month, year after year, for millenia, it does in fact build up a hell of a lot of minerals.

Nightlion, have you not heard of salinization of land due to irrigation (plus other, non-manmade processes)? If land can build up levels of salt just due to irrigation of crops over a few decades, imagine how much salt and other minerals can build up in a lake like the Great Salt Lake, or the Dead Sea, after tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of years by entire rivers' worth of water flowing into them and evaporating, leaving behind their salt?

Anyhow, the idea that Lake Bonneville proves Noah's Flood is a complete non sequitur. Even if salinization due to evaporation of Lake Bonneville and the contribution of salts over millenia by its tributaries aren't enough to explain the salt content, that wouldn't mean the Flood of Noah must be true. There are infinitely many other possibilities that could do such a thing, such as what the Dude mentioned, about it having previously been connected to salt water directly (though I haven't read that one before, anyone have sources?).

Finding what one thinks to be a weakness in the conventional, scientific explanation for something, and then yelling out "therefor God must have done it!" has always been embarassingly naïve, and yet it is a technique able to convince the ignorant or the unintelligent. If not, Kent Hovind and Ken Ham would be out of a job, that's for sure - but even our friend Nightlion here seems to embrace it. Nightlion, you would do well to rethink.

I am still thinking. But I like it more and more. To begin with the notion that there never was a flood of Noah is worse than jumping on the God did it bandwagon. There is a huge prejudice that precludes rational consideration of what might have been.

Where did the Lake Bonniville waters orginate. That should be the prime consideration. It is obvious that it did not gather from natural run off.

[_Nightlion]

The Great Salt Lake is a remnant of Lake Bonneville, which itself is a remnant of the Great Inland Sea which extended to the Gulf of Mexico in prehistoric times.

In other words, the salt content is due to the water from which it evaporated being part of the ocean at one point before being cut off. This did not happen recently. We're talking many millions of years ago. If the salt had come from Noah's flood linking a supposedly fresh water lake to the ocean, then every OTHER lake on earth would be a salt lake, too.
So your theory is incorrect.

No way!!!!
Nightlion is correct, in fact he told half of the supercataclysmic story, left the best part out;
How about Grand Canyon? it is a huge proof that all that billions of cubics of water rushed down and created Grand Canyon in few days, not in millions of years as you Darwinist claim.
Way to go nigthlion!

I bow with one eye on the crowd.

[_Nightlion]

Night lion,

Your theory makes perfect sense.

Well, at least until my foil hat exploded. I was trying to quantify how much poo Noah was shovelling to keep 10,000 species from slipping in it.

All right guys Noah did not collect every species. He collected those needed in the new area where he would settle to establish a fawna equilibrium. So life in his neck of the wood could thrive. God could have collected all the species and redeposited them severally as he willed throughout the world just to twist the tits of latter-day science.

[_Nightlion]

Yeah, the idea that the Grand Canyon was carved in a few days by receding waters of Noah's Flood is odd, as if there were a drain somewhere that sucked all the water down into it in a rush. Where was the water going in such a rush, and what held it back until then?

There actually is a place in the west that was carved out by the quick flooding of a massive amount of water, and it looks very different from the Grand Canyon. Are you familiar with the Scablands in Eastern Washington? That area was flooded long ago when a glacier dam broke, by the same mechanism that caused Iceland to flood last decade. The rock floor has ripple marks and very cool-looking swirly potholes that were carved out by rapidly swirling eddies in the rushing water.

If the waters covered the earth for three years sloshing about the unstable soils everywhere would have gone into solution and washed away. If there was nothing rooting the dirt it was massivly eroded and it looks like the sand bar for the entire world ended up in North Africa and parts East.
Some study of ocean currents might show this probability.

[_Nightlion]

On the tippy top of Mount Olympus you see a scum floatsom a couple of inches thick.

No you don't.

When did you climb up Desolation Trail out of Millcreek Canyon and make it to the top of Mount Olympus? Not the rock face but the real top further back. I was there and there was crap like scum all over the place. You think I just lied about it?

I think your ocean cut off theory is a cop out.

It's not a cop-out; it's a fact. I didn't make it up.

If the evaporation started millions of years ago there is no way the salt flats would be as close to level as they still are.

Of course they would.[/quote]

The Pacific Plate undercuts our continental plate and pushes it up after twenty thousand or millions of years it would not still be level, not close.

[_Inconceivable]

Nightlion,

Lake Bonneville's flatlands of salt still cannot prove Noah packed and cared for 1,000s of animal species on a little boat the size of a football field.

Well, no more than the presents given by Santa Clause were actually squoze down my chimney.

[_moksha]

No way!!!!
Nightlion is correct, in fact he told half of the supercataclysmic story, left the best part out;
How about Grand Canyon? it is a huge proof that all that billions of cubics of water rushed down and created Grand Canyon in few days, not in millions of years as you Darwinist claim.
Way to go nigthlion!

I know Mono Lake looks otherworldly. Perhaps it had an extraterrestrial origin. This might dovetail into Nightlion's evidence locker as well.

[_zzyzx]

You are confusing salts of various kinds with one specific one: Sodium Chloride.

All naturally occuring bodies of water contain salts that are introduced into them almost every time water is introduced. Rivers, streams and even rainwater washing in from the shore will have some form of naturally occuring salts.

Devils Lake, North Dakota just got the OK to release freshwater into the Red River to prevent the lake from flooding surrounding areas. Seems simple, doesn't it? It isn't. The Health Department and Natural Resources had to set a waiver of the allowable salts in the outflow from 450ppm to 750ppm before the water was allowed to flow out into the freshwater river.

Great Salt Lake and many others in the Great Basin are terminal lakes. All water that flows in stays unless it percolates into the ground or evaporates. Either method leaves behind salts of various kinds with evaporation leaving much more than percolation.

Any freshwater body that has more evaporation than water flowing out will gradually accumulate salts/pollutants of various types until the lake is no longer a viable water source for fresh water. Clear Lake in California has signs posted against eating the fish due to toxic levels of various salts introduced by the water flowing into the lake. Most introduced by man and some possibly made more toxic by interaction with naturally occuring salts.

A flood such as Noah supposedly had has nothing to do with Great Salt Lake concentration of mineral salts. It is a natural process. Try putting some of your local tap water into a jar and watch what happens as it evaporates. You might be very surprised at what is left behind from this "Clean Water".

[_Nightlion]

You are confusing salts of various kinds with one specific one: Sodium Chloride.

All naturally occuring bodies of water contain salts that are introduced into them almost every time water is introduced. Rivers, streams and even rainwater washing in from the shore will have some form of naturally occuring salts.

Devils Lake, North Dakota just got the OK to release freshwater into the Red River to prevent the lake from flooding surrounding areas. Seems simple, doesn't it? It isn't. The Health Department and Natural Resources had to set a waiver of the allowable salts in the outflow from 450ppm to 750ppm before the water was allowed to flow out into the freshwater river.

Great Salt Lake and many others in the Great Basin are terminal lakes. All water that flows in stays unless it percolates into the ground or evaporates. Either method leaves behind salts of various kinds with evaporation leaving much more than percolation.

Any freshwater body that has more evaporation than water flowing out will gradually accumulate salts/pollutants of various types until the lake is no longer a viable water source for fresh water. Clear Lake in California has signs posted against eating the fish due to toxic levels of various salts introduced by the water flowing into the lake. Most introduced by man and some possibly made more toxic by interaction with naturally occuring salts.

A flood such as Noah supposedly had has nothing to do with Great Salt Lake concentration of mineral salts. It is a natural process. Try putting some of your local tap water into a jar and watch what happens as it evaporates. You might be very surprised at what is left behind from this "Clean Water".

We are talking the volume of salt that has been deposited and that most recently in geological terms. A few thousand years is nothing. The unbroken flatness of the Salt Flats says it all.