Adultery, how long til you are OK again?

[_The Nehor]

You trust Law who belonged for years (according to him) to a subversive organization, who deceived in his newspaper, and betrayed Joseph.

What utter dribble.. You really are a loon and not worth the time to discuss this further ..

The word is 'drivel' and I'll take that as a concession. Bye.

[_Jason Bourne]

The answer to your question about yourself or your friends is... you are never forgiven. You are ex'ed. And then if you are sufficiently repentent, you can be rebaptised after you've groveled enough.

Once again harm I have to correct you. Adultery does not always not automatically result in excommunication. And yes you can be forgiven whether or not you are ex'd. And yes you can be re-baptized if ex'd and yes I would agree at times that there is some necessary groveling involved.

[_harmony]

The answer to your question about yourself or your friends is... you are never forgiven. You are ex'ed. And then if you are sufficiently repentent, you can be rebaptised after you've groveled enough.

Once again harm I have to correct you.

And I love it when you do.

Adultery does not always not automatically result in excommunication.

In what alternative universe? Because in my ward and stake, adultery results in excommunication.

And yes you can be forgiven whether or not you are ex'd.

I was thinking of "forgiven by the offended party", not forgiven by the church. Who are you thinking was doing the forgiving?

And yes you can be re-baptized if ex'd and yes I would agree at times that there is some necessary groveling involved.

Yippee! I get to be right!

[_bcspace]

Emma Smith witnessed Jos. and Fanny in a barn..

CFR

[_TAK]

Emma Smith witnessed Jos. and Fanny in a barn..

CFR

Mormon Polygamy: A History
by Richard S. Van Wagoner

[_Brackite]

Joseph Smith prompts this one. His bedding Fannie Alger, Oliver calling it a 'filthy affair' and Joseph not having "the Keys" for sealing in plural marriage at the time... it must be Adultery.

How long after committing adultery are you OK with all the inspiration, revelation, church stuff and whatnot? Did Joseph lose anything for a day, a week, a month or a few years? Did he stop getting inspiration and revelation while following his magic wand to Fannies place?

If I or friends commit adultery, how long until all is OK once again? A week or longer? Does it depend on who the babe is? If I have a higher church calling is it quicker than if I am a lowly peon? Is it faster if I pay a lot of tithing?

Apparently Joseph suffered nothing but Oliver calling him a dirtbag. For the right babe... maybe I could live with that?

According to LDS Apologists, Joseph Smith did not commit adultery with Fanny Alger. Here is what LDS Apologist and LDS Historian Nevo Stated:

It is not clear to me that Joseph did not have authorization to perform plural marriages prior to Elijah's visit. Toward the end of his life, Joseph seems to have interpreted Elijah's visit primarily (exclusively?) in terms of sealing parents and children. Elijah was sent, he said, "to seal the children to the fathers & the fathers to the children" (10 March 1844).


Certainly Joseph believed that he was authorized to solemnize marriages "by the authority of the everlasting priesthood" prior to 1836 (see, e.g., his diary entry for 24 November 1835). Presumably he believed this applied to his marriage to Fanny Alger as well. Was this marriage "sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise" as per D&C 132:19? I don't know. Danel Bachman says that Joseph's "exercise of [his prophetic authority] in performing marriages in Ohio was compatible with Section 132" (see "New Light on an Old Hypothesis: The Ohio Origins of the Revelation on Eternal Marriage," Journal of Mormon History 5 [1978]: 26-27). In any case, I do think the relationship was a marriage (as did Fanny's family and most of the Kirtland Saints who knew of it).

Link: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9477


After Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger got Religiously Married By the Sealing Power, I do very strongly believe that Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger had sex with each other.

[_bcspace]

CFR

Mormon Polygamy: A History
by Richard S. Van Wagoner

That's neither a reference or a quote. CFR.

[_Brackite]

Hi BCSpace,

This Post doesn't have anything to do with this subject on this Thread, but you need to read This Post again, bcspace.

[_bcspace]

Hi BCSpace,

This Post doesn't have anything to do with this subject on this Thread, but you need to read This Post again, bcspace.

K. So?

[_Brackite]

K. So?

In the words of Dr Shades:

bcspace:

First off, you're butchering the quote feature (and have since you started posting here).

Please Read That Post again.