what should I give a talk on?

[_MCB]

Hagoth and his people leaving, and the deterioration of the situation from there on, with the best of the Nephites gone. "The bad chasing out the good."

OOPS. If you don't want it to be an exit song, don't do it. :))

[_zzyzx]

The Great and Spacious Trailer Park™

Can you point me to the Trademark registration paperwork of site where we can confirm this name is actually and legally trademarked? Where the registration paperwork is?

I would like to see it to see if you are publishing the Truth and using the mark legally.

I ask because in my checking this I came up with the following" There are no U.S. trademarks found for The Great and Spacious Trailer Park

If you are using the Trademark symbol illegally... you are in violation of Federal laws in the US. Is this what you are doing or is the paperwork and registration just not showing up on a search?

Living in Utah I am only too familiar with thieves, liars and con-men... after all, I attend LDS services. So, put up or shut up bigmouth online.

[Guest]

Thanks everyone. Great responses. Yes I'm glad they let me choose the topic. If they would have asked me to talk about Joseph Smith I would have no choice but to kindly refuse. After refusing, they would ask why and I'd have to start down a new path...

I talked to my wife last night about how great it would be to make the clean break so that we could pursue our dreams (having money and time to do support the charity we like) and she agreed. But then we started to talk about the repercussions. I would lose my TR and not be able to join in-laws and my own family in all the sealings, blessings, etc, etc going on and they would all see us for who we are and likely judge us and it would be a mess. What if I can't baptize my son when next year? I know what people on this board are going to say - it is our life we should follow our hearts. It is not that easy. I consider myself stuck in a grip with no easy way out.

I think you're a hypocritical coward, and a despicable fraud.

Oh, I'm sure you have some positive qualities as well. Most hypocritical cowards do. All I know is that if I were your son, I would be ashamed to call you my father. If I were your father, I'd be ashamed to call you my son. You demonstrably lack the moral backbone to act on your own convictions. No doubt this character flaw is at the root of the faithlessness that has now caused you to become alienated from the restored gospel.

You have officially joined the ranks of The Great and Spacious Trailer Park®, and you gleefully point your finger of scorn towards those still partaking of the fruit of the tree--at least from the cowardly security of your pseudonym. And yet, faced with the minor discomfort of owning your disbelief in the eyes of your erstwhile ward brothers and sisters, you opt instead to stand before them, pretend to be one with them, and then rush back afterwards to this cesspool of hate and vengeance to report your deed and heap ridicule on the stupid rubes in the chapel who continue to believe those things you are now convinced to be nothing more than fairy tales and lies.

Frankly, you disgust me.

Hi William,

First, I must admit that this contribution SHOCKS me on several levels.
( including but not limited to the position you hold in representing the LDS Church as well as LDS Aplogetics ).

If I may offer you a few words from someone who has no dog in this fight:

There is a fellow LDS who is currently stuggling ( as many of us do at some point in our perspective journeys ) in their journey and you choose " THIS " as a method to reach out to him ?????? Simply put, IMHO, that is crazy.

Coward ???? Hardly, IMHO. On the contrary, it takes enormous courage ( when you consider the " risks " and deep pain involved ) to consider a possible exit.

I simply can not understand ( under any circumstance ) your response you have offered to a fellow human being.

If there was ever a time to extend the " christian " love, support, and compassion to the ones who are smack in the middle of a " crisis ", this IMHO, would most certainly be the proper time.

I stand firmly puzzled by your judgement of another human being and find it to be way " out of bounds " to use his son/father for your benefit.

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_Gadianton Plumber]

Ceeboo,

I cannot express how pleased I am that you are posting on this board. I promise that if you choose to remain with us, you will read some of the best discussions regarding Mormonism to be found on the internet. Yes, we are rowdy, but this is a free speech place and ideas are not censored, nor is ANY viewpoint. The signal to noise ratio is much, much, much better than at MAD.

Your posts are fantastic and you always reflect your faith very well. I like your contributions over at the MAD house a great deal. Please don't let the smears of predisposed people sour you to this place.

I hope beyond hope you remain with us and continue to post.

Gadianton Plumber
GSA Undersecretary of Chips and Beer
Mopologetic Peer-review Watch Capacity Planner

[_William Schryver]

It is time for me to share my most beloved Priesthood story about love and kindness in behalf of Will.

A stake president and BYU professor who lives in Springville, Utah began to help my SIL with her studies as she was going through her PhD program. She was young and single at the beginning but later got married and now lives with her family out of state. It became obvious to all of us around her that this man was beginning to have feelings for our SIL. She saw things as he was being nice and helpful to her and was genuine. He would call her often and find ways to visit with her alone in his office. One day he took her on a walk in some lonely place and confided in her of his bad relationship with his own wife. Very luckily for SIL, she moved with her husband out of Utah. My my wife and I feared for her safety and told her many times over the years that this man has an agenda and she needs to get away from him and report him. We know he still tries to contact her. I'm planning to report him for his abuse. Will just gave me a reason to do it!

This story tells me plainly of one thing: kindness is more important than the priesthood. This man was not kind to his wife and his priesthood was nothing more than a parody.

Classic!

That's absolutely right, Zeez buddy, your story exemplifies the majority of the male practitioners of Mormonism: they put on a pious front, but secretly they are longing to hungrily defile every underage virgin they come across.

And were it not for your pathetic hypocritical cowardice, you wouldn't be counted among them anymore; you'd stand on your convictions! But alas, you are a limp-wristed, panty-waisted wimp with not an ounce of moral fortitude in your soul.

You belong here in the Singlewide of the Damned®. Look up Agostini, Il Maledetto. He can help you with the millstone fitting.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

I will send a kilo of brunost to whoever posts this over at MAD. Would DCP and his gang of zombies defend this?

Will, you are awesome.

[_harmony]

That's absolutely right, Zeez buddy, your story exemplifies the majority of the male practitioners of Mormonism: they put on a pious front, but secretly they are longing to hungrily defile every underage virgin they come across.

Quit projecting your personal desires onto Zee. We all know where you stand on sexuality, underage or not.

And were it not for your pathetic hypocritical cowardice, you wouldn't be counted among them anymore; you'd stand on your convictions! But alas, you are a limp-wristed, panty-waisted wimp with not an ounce of moral fortitude in your soul.

You belong here in the Singlewide of the Damned®. Look up Agostini, Il Maledetto. He can help you with the millstone fitting.

At least some of us don't claim that our priesthood is intact, William. You forfeited yours long ago, your protestations notwithstanding.

Oh, and Zee is standing on his convictions, which is more than can be said for you. Geez, Will! You're such an embarrassment to any LDS member!

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hello,

Might I suggest Mr. William "Gookie Cookie" Schryver is as much a mean-spirited drunk as our lovable Mr. Paul O? I would kindly recommend to Mr. William "Circle Jerk" Schryver that he atone for his behavior, get back on the Word of Wisdom wagon, and seek professional help to manage his alcoholism (and anger issues).

Very Respectfully,

Doctor CamNC4Me

[_Nimrod]

Classic!

That's absolutely right, Zeez buddy, your story exemplifies the majority of the male practitioners of Mormonism: they put on a pious front, but secretly they are longing to hungrily defile every underage virgin they come across.

No, Will. zeezrom's story does not broadly brushstroke the majority of the male practitioners of Mormonism. Just those that emulate the life and conduct of Joseph Smith.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

I retained my priesthood when I left the Church. God gave me his priesthood, wrinkled men in diapers did not. I will bless those that seek to be blessed, comfort those that seek to be comforted. And I will do it in the name of Jesus Christ. THAT is something no Mormon can claim.

What do you think of that, Will? Fraudulent?

Elder Gadianton Plumber
GSA Undersecretary of Chips and Beer