For TBMs: Could you be wrong?

[_The Nehor]

It's unlikely debate would work.

No discussion of the facts. Got it.

Didn't say that.

I'd need evidence discrediting my contact with the divine.

You contacted the divine? Really? Did you get any pictures?

Yes, they're on my blog.

If you could prove somehow that those were beamed into me by aliens or secret government agencies somehow then that might work but you'd need a lot of evidence to establish that.

So, you try to discredit criticism of your own experiences with the "divine" by linking criticisms to other supernatural experiences, some of which other people believe in fervently.

No.

It would also need to explain the 'foretelling the future accurately' in several of the experiences.

Such as?

Check my blog.

[_The Nehor]

I'd need evidence discrediting my contact with the divine....It would also need to explain the 'foretelling the future accurately' in several of the experiences.

Hello,

Out of curiosity, what does the Divine and un-Divine communicate to you?

V/R
Dr. Cam

Truths apostates like you should never know lest your mind fracture under the strain. Truths hidden from humanity until the stars are right and then THEY shall awaken.

[_The Nehor]

Why do you attribute your contact with the divine as having anything to with Mormonism?

Content of the message.

[_Runtu]

Truths apostates like you should never know lest your mind fracture under the strain. Truths hidden from humanity until the stars are right and then THEY shall awaken.

You know, I had those kinds of experiences as a member of the church, and I attributed them to confirmation that Mormonism was true. Despite the predictions of some, however, I've had the same kinds of experiences since losing my belief in the church. I have had impressions, "promptings," whatever you want to call them, when I've known I needed to do something or that something was going to happen.

What this leads me to believe is that these kinds of experiences are unrelated to Mormonism, which is a good thing because I have seen the kind of evidence that, although it doesn't "discredit" these experiences, shows me clearly that Mormonism is not what it claims to be.

[_The Nehor]

Truths apostates like you should never know lest your mind fracture under the strain. Truths hidden from humanity until the stars are right and then THEY shall awaken.

You know, I had those kinds of experiences as a member of the church, and I attributed them to confirmation that Mormonism was true. Despite the predictions of some, however, I've had the same kinds of experiences since losing my belief in the church. I have had impressions, "promptings," whatever you want to call them, when I've known I needed to do something or that something was going to happen.

I have had more then just impressions and promptings and these are what make me believe.

What this leads me to believe is that these kinds of experiences are unrelated to Mormonism, which is a good thing because I have seen the kind of evidence that, although it doesn't "discredit" these experiences, shows me clearly that Mormonism is not what it claims to be.

I disagree but you probably already knew that.

[_Pa Pa]

This is your proof? So your grandparents you recently lost were just fools...how about Mon and Dad...the same?

Nehor has admitted to having hallucinations. My grandparents never did. I don't think Nehor is a fool, just prone to hallucinations.

I think my grandpa may have been more skeptical of religion than he let on. It's hard to say. He was an intellectual. He rarely spoke about religion, but he had a lot to say about poetry.

Bringing the "A" game today are we...lets just put aside our hatred for one moment and tell me why you think this is...

Your quote...

I think my grandpa may have been more skeptical of religion than he let on.

[_The Nehor]

Nehor has admitted to having hallucinations.

I admitted to what now?

[_consiglieri]

For the TBMs who post here, I'm curious:

Do you ever consider that you could be wrong about the truthfulness of the LDS religion? YES. Why or why not? BECAUSE IT IS A FAITH PROPOSITION AND NOT ALL THE EVIDENCE IS IN YET. IN FACT, MUCH OF THE EVIDENCE THAT IS IN SEEMS TO CONTRADICT THIS POSITION. Is there any amount of debate or evidence that could convince you that you're wrong? YES, BUT I WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO IDENTIFY IT IN ADVANCE.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri (Italian for "still can't figure out how to use the multi-quote function")

[_Runtu]

I have had more then just impressions and promptings and these are what make me believe.

So have I.

I disagree but you probably already knew that.

Yep. I respect your belief in the church, you seem to respect my disbelief. Works for me.

[_consiglieri]

Careful over here…most hate us all, and have mentioned you by name.

Just so you know, Pa Pa, the character known as Selek on this board has no relationship to the character known as Selek on the other board.

It's kind of like the Mirror, Mirror episode of Star Trek.

Think Spock with a goatee.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri