Mormon Dialogue board on the verge of death?

[_Runtu]

No train wreck or ice berg in sight.

I don't think that's what Kish meant by "train wreck." That place is its own kind of crazy, and "train wreck" is an apt description.

[_why me]

I agree it will live on, but it's a shadow of its former self.

The board that is (but the church also to some extent).

The internet does cause a problem for the LDS church. However, it is not necessarily a huge problem. As we can see here, people tend to be where they feel most comfortable when it comes to searching websites. Zee and others love the antimormon sites and prim information from those sites to enforse their opinions. It is only natural to do so.

Nut no, MDD nor the Mormon church are on the verge of death.

[_Runtu]

The internet does cause a problem for the LDS church. However, it is not necessarily a huge problem. As we can see here, people tend to be where they feel most comfortable when it comes to searching websites. Zee and others love the antimormon sites and prim information from those sites to enforse their opinions. It is only natural to do so.

Some people are interested in knowing more than what is in the Sunday School manuals, and sometimes they find that the truth isn't the rosy scenario they were taught. But you think people like Zee went out and purposely looked for stuff that would allow them to hurt their families, destroy friendships, and turn their worldviews upside-down.

Not all of us are content to stay halfway out of the church and lob stupid criticisms at people who have the guts to follow their beliefs.

[_Kishkumen]

Not all of us are content to stay halfway out of the church and lob stupid criticisms at people who have the guts to follow their beliefs.

You don't have someone specific in mind here, do you? ;-)

[_Yoda]

The internet does cause a problem for the LDS church. However, it is not necessarily a huge problem. As we can see here, people tend to be where they feel most comfortable when it comes to searching websites. Zee and others love the antimormon sites and prim information from those sites to enforse their opinions. It is only natural to do so.

Some people are interested in knowing more than what is in the Sunday School manuals, and sometimes they find that the truth isn't the rosy scenario they were taught. But you think people like Zee went out and purposely looked for stuff that would allow them to hurt their families, destroy friendships, and turn their worldviews upside-down.

Not all of us are content to stay halfway out of the church and lob stupid criticisms at people who have the guts to follow their beliefs.

Why Me's problem is that he isn't accepted by the TBM's, either. He is admittedly inactive...and, admittedly inactive because he chooses not to follow all of the Church standards.

He is the last person I would take seriously about any type of criticism he offers because he admittedly is too lazy to get off his ass and pay tithing, hold a calling, etc.

[_lostindc]

MDD is doing quite well. There is a pinned thread that gives thanks to all posters who are making the board a success. It has a lot of trafic on the board.

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/545 ... at-change/

The exmos and postmos are always celebrating the decline of Mormonism and the Mormon church. But the facts say just the opposite.

Wrong,

You see, Julliane/nemesis/Will/whatever is cherry picking stats. If nemesis is honest he would compare May 2011 with May 2010 and even May 2009. Likewise, compare other months and other years. Also compare the number of individuals signing up to post on the board. Instead we have a six month layout of some simple stats. Nemesis chooses to avoid the fact that the board is completely dead compared to where it was in 2009.

Other strong LDS oriented boards have died and MAD will also join the ranks.

[_lostindc]

The internet does cause a problem for the LDS church. However, it is not necessarily a huge problem. As we can see here, people tend to be where they feel most comfortable when it comes to searching websites. Zee and others love the antimormon sites and prim information from those sites to enforse their opinions. It is only natural to do so.

Nut no, MDD nor the Mormon church are on the verge of death.

Your head is in the sand if you do not see the internet as a huge problem. If I never gained access to the internet I would still be TBM thinking native americans are the descendants of a small jewish family, zelph was a righteous prophet, the Book of Abraham has been verified by scholars outside the faith, and BY was not extremely racist.

No internet = a much larger TBM population.

Instead we have to resort to the original, gorgeous writings of Mike Ash to attempt to counter the facts.

[_Mike Reed]

Nemesis chooses to avoid the fact that the board is completely dead compared to where it was in 2009.

Even more so if we are talking about quality instead of quantity.

[_Kishkumen]

Even more so if we are talking about quality instead of quantity.

Precisely.

[_why me]

Some people are interested in knowing more than what is in the Sunday School manuals, and sometimes they find that the truth isn't the rosy scenario they were taught. But you think people like Zee went out and purposely looked for stuff that would allow them to hurt their families, destroy friendships, and turn their worldviews upside-down.

Here is what I think happens. People find information on the internet about LDS history and Joseph Smith. Usually they find this information from websites that are not friendly to the LDS church and these websites give their own interpretation to the events. Then, the LDS victim of such sites begins to search other sites by googling such information that is found from the first site. More sites show up on the search engine and the LDS victim begins to read these sites for more information. These sites are also not friendly to the LDS church and give an interpretation of the information that is not far off from the first site looked at.

And what does the LDS victim find giving a different interpretation if they are lucky to find such sites: FAIR and the FAIRwiki. But the amount of antimormon sites with such information far outnumber the Mormon friendly sites and these sites are written in such a way to cast doubt in the LDS mind about their church.

The LDS victim has his or her testimony shaken and begins their journey of discovery by finding more information about different LDS topics on the antisites with their own interpretation of facts. And as such, we have people like zee and others on postmormon sites.

Then, they may come to a board like this or some other discussion board that shores up their disappointment by allowing them to communicate with others that were disappointed with what they have found on the internet.

Now is critical thinking dead? Perhaps. Most people these days using the internet for discussion purposes are on sites in which they agree with. Most are not on unfriendly sites to their belief system. And of course to prove my point: I have been banned from postmo and from NOM for not courting to the antimormon tone of the board.

And that is the problem with such boards. No debate is encouraged. Now is the foyer the same? Perhaps so.