Proof the Church Misleads and Deceives about History

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Re: Proof the Church Misleads and Deceives about History

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Buffalo wrote:
Droopy wrote:
He doesn't have a position, at least, not in a critical or logical sense. His entire presence on this board and other boards is nothing more than his psychological defense mechanisms parading upon the public stage in a daily cathartic territorial display, like a mountain gorilla slapping its chest and pounding the ground.

There are some other people here who engage in fundamentally the same behavior.

Its quite transparent, really.


More ad hominem, but zero substance, as usual.




Its not ad hominem at all. Its a clear and concise observation that many would agree with. Graham has been quite literally driven mad by his apostasy and the flamboyant intellectual gymnastics necessary to defend and justify it.

The evidence is all right here.
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Re: Proof the Church Misleads and Deceives about History

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Droopy wrote:


Its not ad hominem at all. Its a clear and concise observation that many would agree with. Graham has been quite literally driven mad by his apostasy and the flamboyant intellectual gymnastics necessary to defend and justify it.

The evidence is all right here.


Your empty posturing and personal insult-to-substance ratio must be off the charts. Congrats!
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Re: Proof the Church Misleads and Deceives about History

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jon wrote:
Droopy still struggles to refute...


Graham is a wild, anti-intellectual demagogue who makes, at one and the same time, rational refutation of his polemical antics both disarmingly easy (as he has extreme difficulty with clear, careful argument) and a waste of time.

I and others here have refuted him so many times, with such gliding ease, that our refuters are worn out.

There's really only one thing you can say about Red Kevin Graham:

Move along...nothing to see here (and please, his entire OP is nothing more than the ad hominem tirade of someone with far too much free time on his hands and too little intellectual heft to use it wisely and well. Taking Graham seriously at all is the real task at hand.)
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Your empty posturing and personal insult-to-substance ratio must be off the charts. Congrats!



As someone selling popcorn in the stands of the Kevin Graham fan club, the sheer hypocrisy here makes one's jaw drop, especially given that probably 90% of the posts Graham has ever made here are and have been composed primarily of "empty posturing and personal insult-to-substance."

Have a nice day trying to fool someone else.
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Re: Proof the Church Misleads and Deceives about History

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Droopy wrote:
jon wrote:
Droopy still struggles to refute...


Graham is a wild, anti-intellectual demagogue who makes, at one and the same time, rational refutation of his polemical antics both disarmingly easy (as he has extreme difficulty with clear, careful argument) and a waste of time.

I and others here have refuted him so many times, with such gliding ease, that our refuters are worn out.

There's really only one thing you can say about Red Kevin Graham:

Move along...nothing to see here (and please, his entire OP is nothing more than the ad hominem tirade of someone with far too much free time on his hands and too little intellectual heft to use it wisely and well. Taking Graham seriously at all is the real task at hand.)



Still nothing...nada...zilch...
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Isn't this the re-cut version of the film that's been playing in the Legacy Theater at Temple Square since 2005?

I never saw the original, but I understand there was a scene before Joseph goes to Carthage Jail wherein he places his hands on Brigham's head and confers the keys of the church on him (see Michael's review here). Looks like they took that out. Now Joseph merely tells Brigham that he wants him to lead the saints to the Rocky Mountains after he's gone.
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Still nothing...nada...zilch...



If Red Kevin ever posts anything beyond nada and silch himself, I will respond with substance, as I prefer to do. Otherwise, I'm quite under the weather today, and just came into this thread to kick the Graham ant hill.

I see my mission has been accomplished.
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Re: Proof the Church Misleads and Deceives about History

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Droopy wrote:
Still nothing...nada...zilch...



If Red Kevin ever posts anything beyond nada and silch himself, I will respond with substance, as I prefer to do. Otherwise, I'm quite under the weather today, and just came into this thread to kick the Graham ant hill.

I see my mission has been accomplished.


...tumbleweed blows gently across the space where substance should be......
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Re: Proof the Church Misleads and Deceives about History

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Droopy wrote:
Your empty posturing and personal insult-to-substance ratio must be off the charts. Congrats!



As someone selling popcorn in the stands of the Kevin Graham fan club, the sheer hypocrisy here makes one's jaw drop, especially given that probably 90% of the posts Graham has ever made here are and have been composed primarily of "empty posturing and personal insult-to-substance."

Have a nice day trying to fool someone else.


You've probably typed several hundred words since your first response. And still not one substantive attempt to refute the OP. It's pretty obvious that you've got nothing.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: Proof the Church Misleads and Deceives about History

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Droopy wrote:I will respond with substance.... I'm quite under the weather today.


Your weak excuses are sadly transparent.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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