Are some people born the wrong gender?

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Re: Are some people born the wrong gender?

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Nightlion wrote:No need to beat yourself up. Even LDS are so unfamiliar with scripture that they cannot collect the strings of thought from all that is written under one hand to understand enough to build a greater understanding.


I think it's unfair to judge people like that simply because they can't follow your train of thought. A lot of what you write is stream of consciousness, and I'm sure it makes sense to you, but not everyone who can't follow it is spiritually or scripturally deficient.
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Nightlion wrote:No need to beat yourself up. Even LDS are so unfamiliar with scripture that they cannot collect the strings of thought from all that is written under one hand to understand enough to build a greater understanding.


I think it's unfair to judge people like that simply because they can't follow your train of thought. A lot of what you write is stream of consciousness, and I'm sure it makes sense to you, but not everyone who can't follow it is spiritually or scripturally deficient.
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Jersey Girl wrote:Why would I expect the creation to be perfect? That's not Biblical.


Excellent question. Also, why would I expect God to be perfect?
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Re: Are some people born the wrong gender?

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CSA wrote:Some people or simply confused about gender and the importance of gender.


Are hermaphrodites confused? :)

If we can have hermaphrodites then why is it not possible to also have those who are attracted to the same sex.
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Re: Are some people born the wrong gender?

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Hoops wrote:
Do you think the government should be paying for that sex change? Money coming out of your pocket.

If the government is going to pay for other kinds of remedies, why shouldn't this be one of them?


They use to but now do not consider it a necessary procedure. It was really to save some money. I tend to think they should pay for it themselves. Many get support from their community to help pay for it. Health care is expensive, so I see no reason when looking for ways to save money or direct it to more important medical needs that this should be one of those that are cut.
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Re: Are some people born the wrong gender?

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Rambo wrote:
I'm not saying it shouldn't be. I actually don't know what to think of this issue yet.


I would be in favor of it if there are enough funds available, but that is not the case, and money should be allocated to more important medical needs. I cannot remember if breast augmentation is covered for cancer patients, but there were some I believe in the contest.
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What do you all think? Is there any science that supports this?


No. But there could be some sort of genetic abberation, since by definition, homosexuals can't reproduce (assuming nontechnological conditions).

LDS scripture allows for inborn weaknesses without having to modify other doctrine and commandments.
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Re: Are some people born the wrong gender?

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bcspace wrote:
What do you all think? Is there any science that supports this?


No. But there could be some sort of genetic abberation, since by definition, homosexuals can't reproduce (assuming nontechnological conditions).

LDS scripture allows for inborn weaknesses without having to modify other doctrine and commandments.


This thread isn't about homosexuality.
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Re: Are some people born the wrong gender?

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Runtu wrote:
Nightlion wrote:No need to beat yourself up. Even LDS are so unfamiliar with scripture that they cannot collect the strings of thought from all that is written under one hand to understand enough to build a greater understanding.


I think it's unfair to judge people like that simply because they can't follow your train of thought. A lot of what you write is stream of consciousness, and I'm sure it makes sense to you, but not everyone who can't follow it is spiritually or scripturally deficient.


Of course it is correct of you to pop my inflated pretense. I did it for fun. And to make some what of a pronouncement proper. Obviously by staging this event dramatically I removed the bane of purposeful pomposity by overacting the same. My ego is not of myself. I rejoice in my salvation and the power and gifts of my redemption which are not to my own credit.

But the actuality of what I said is sound judgement. If someone else spoke thus before I had ever considered anything about it I could have followed it flawlessly and embraced it as a wonderful insight that illuminated much heretofore darkness.

There are numerous reasons people fail to hear the word of the Lord when it speaks of new things.
1. They do not expect it. Like not hearing what someone says because you did not expect them to speak to you. Who is expecting God to speak to gender differentiation today. Nobody hardly thinks God has a voice to speak anything at all. They will need to shake off mountains of doubt and disuse of their ears before they will tingle with resonance.
2. No one is familiar with scripture who has not received the gift and power of the Holy Ghost following a prophet baptism of fire for real and been truly born of God, having a new heart put into their inward parts that is filled with the love and faith of God. I know, I know that THE LEARNED suppose, wrongly, that they are equal to every mental task. Tisk, tisk. The whole human is more than mentality. The academy has no franchise to install those parts you NATURALLY are lacking. These things come of God and not of man. Who is man? His brains are flesh and not spirit. His heart is filled with fear and doubt and not faith and purposefulness.
3. The minds of all men are clouded with presuppositions. Mormons are so certain that they are IT that showing them how NOT IT they are is impossible. It will never be heard nor seen. It just cannot be entertained. Same with the learned. Same with all other persuasions, be they what they may.

I do not mean to pick on you Runtu but I respect no pride. Least of all my own. Nanny my writing if you must. But I would rather you not.
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