The snake in the garden of eden

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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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Genesis 3
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1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

I see. So in your world a snake is a serpent and a serpent is a snake. Okay. Got it.
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Hoops wrote:

Genesis 3
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1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

I see. So in your world a snake is a serpent and a serpent is a snake. Okay. Got it.


Granted El hadn't taken away his legs yet. Another Just So story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_(Bible)
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bcspace wrote:
Doesn't the medical world use a snake on the symbol of healing?


A serpent wrapped around a tree (of knowledge of good and evil?).


No. It is the symbol that MOSES used to heal the children of Israel.

That is the irony. The serpent is the tempter in the garden, yet the same symbol is used for life/healing or even Christ later on.
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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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Hoops wrote:

Genesis 3
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1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

I see. So in your world a snake is a serpent and a serpent is a snake. Okay. Got it.


Do you know what the word in the original text meant?
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A serpent wrapped around a tree (of knowledge of good and evil?).

No. It is the symbol that MOSES used to heal the children of Israel.


No, the caduceus predates that and symbolizes the staff of Hermes, but the deeper symbology is likely to be from the garden of Hesperides where there was a tree, a serpent, and some immortality giving fruit.
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in the OP. The point of this isn't really about snakes, but about Satan. As in, Satan didn't tempt anyone in the garden of Eden. Ha-Satan, the minor Canaanite God, wasn't in that little story. Neither was the modern boogie man Satan.
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ajax18 wrote:
The snake usually symbolizes rebirth, eternal life or the eternal round. It is typically a positive or god type symbol.


I find it odd that the ancients could sell a story like that. I believe my intense hatred, fear, and disgust of snakes is hard wired into me evolutionarily. It would have taken a lot of conditioning, inculcation, threats, etc. to have me feel differently, a major uphill battle for the herpephiles for sure.


Even the God of Christianity wants to be feared.
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in the OP. The point of this isn't really about snakes, but about Satan. As in, Satan didn't tempt anyone in the garden of Eden. Ha-Satan, the minor Canaanite God, wasn't in that little story. Neither was the modern boogie man Satan.


What precludes it?
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Wraith wrote:Thus, our gratitude should extend to Lucifer. For without him standing up to God, we'd all be stuck singing the same boring hymns in heaven's choir. ;)


Lol...remind me again why lucifer is an a-hole? He is the reason I get to actually enjoy life outside the boringness that is LDS adherence/worship...Until the LDS have a true testimony of Lucifer, they will never know real "joy"...
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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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bcspace wrote:
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in the OP. The point of this isn't really about snakes, but about Satan. As in, Satan didn't tempt anyone in the garden of Eden. Ha-Satan, the minor Canaanite God, wasn't in that little story. Neither was the modern boogie man Satan.


What precludes it?


I'm pretty sure neither ha-Satan nor Satan are animals.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

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