TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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In answer to the OP.

In my experience (and as is evident from a number of posts on this thread) TBM's reconcile this by finding an alternative possibility that fits what they want to believe rather than the one that is most probable due to all supporting evidence and most obvious.

TBM's have to believe that Joseph Smith got it right and that everybody else, including in this case every single professional Egyptologist, get's it wrong. To accept the alternative allows for the notion that Joseph Smith just made stuff up - when that thought pops into the TBM grey matter the world implodes.
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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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The writing here translates as the first chapter of 1 Nephi. Or sure, modern so-called linguists and translators may disagree, but they don't realize that the French has changed over time. Perhaps something along the lines of the Parthenon Code in which it is postulated that the figures on the Parthenon actually represent the battle between the saints (the children of Seth) and Jeovah and his prophets on one side and Satan (the serpent) and Cain on the other. The figures depict the supremacy of Seth and his children preFlood and the ascendency of the serpent's religion after the Flood; the victories of Hercules/Nimrod/Gilgamesh over the allies and sons of Seth. So instead of Adam and Eve, we have Zeus and Hera. Jehovah = Chronos. Noah = Nereus. Athena is Eve as she should have been, imbued with knowledge of the serpent for man's use. Etc.

One could apply similar to other examples of French writing. The French are notorious for burying or changing the past, especially when it's unpleasant to the current rulers. The victory of Nephi and his God over the pleasure-loving, Frenchesque Laman and Lemuel would certainly not be a welcome depiction.
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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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So, bcspace, do you think Facs 2 has been correctly restored by JSJr to its original image, upside down hieratics added to what had remained intact only bearing upright hieroglyphics?

Does LDS scipture include a false restoration?
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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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sock puppet wrote:So, bcspace, do you think...



Sorry sock, but that's where you lost it, right there...
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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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The CERN article presented data but drew no such conclusions


Sure it did. The calculations upon which AGW is based will have to be significantly revised. Therefore, there is nothing currently supporting AGW in the scientific arena.
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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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The Egyptians are notorious for burying or changing the past, especially when it's unpleasant to the current rulers

No...no, you didn't say this...


Sure I did. You haven't been paying attention to Egyptian history.
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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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bcspace wrote:
Sure I did. You haven't been paying attention to the mopologetic shell game regarding Egyptian history.


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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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Sure I did. You haven't been paying attention to the mopologetic shell game regarding Egyptian history.

Revisions in blue to reflect reality.


I think the average viewer of PBS specials on say, the pyramids, would be more up to date than you.
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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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bcspace wrote:I think the average viewer of PBS specials on say, the pyramids, would be more up to date than you.


So modern Egyptology has finally caught up with Joseph Smith? Do tell. Link?
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Re: TBMs: How do you Reconcile Facsimile No. 2?

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sock puppet wrote:So, bcspace, do you think Facs 2 has been correctly restored by JSJr to its original image, upside down hieratics added to what had remained intact only bearing upright hieroglyphics?

Does LDS scipture include a false restoration?


How hardly can bcspace say that the Hypocephalus was properly restored by the (pretended) seer and his buddies. It's impossible. He cannot do that, worlds without end. Joseph Smith made it all up.

The Translator & Publisher couldn't read Egyptian. He faked translations and dressed his Facsimile thinking the world would never uncover his dirty deed. Actually, Joseph Smith was caught with his pants down. Modern man has revealed/proven that Joseph Smith was a false translator. Too bad Joseph Smith isn't alive today to take a beating and listen to us laugh at him. If he were in front of me I'd raise my arm to the square and rebuke him. Then watch him wiggle like a worm.

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