Is Mormoni's promise testable?

[_stemelbow]

That's the thing, Stem - if you want to make an informed decision, you need to test whether the "pray to find out if Mormonism is true" test is actually reliable. There's no way to know without testing it.

The reliability of it is found in the results. Not just whether you feel inspired that the Book of Mormon is true of course. its also in by living the teachings and seeing how it affects your life. If that doesn't work for you, I'll go ahead and assume God knowing your situation and predicament has something in mind for you.

[_Drifting]

That's the thing, Stem - if you want to make an informed decision, you need to test whether the "pray to find out if Mormonism is true" test is actually reliable. There's no way to know without testing it.

The reliability of it is found in the results.

Exactly stemelbow, exactly.

[_stemelbow]

Seeking the truth about Ultimate Reality is not a game.

But setting up your own method of how it ought to work and then playing with the method already defined to see if you can make it work for you is a game.

If there truly is a God, then our eternal salvation depends on it.

That's a little dramatic and I get where the drama comes from. I'd say if there is a God and you seek to be a genuine, loving person, then He has designs for you whether you know it or not. It is not required that everyone believe right now. In the end everyone will more than believe, as every knee shall bow and tongue confess. He'll make the most of ya. I'm not of the "you don't beleive therefore you are dead in sins and tresspasses type.

He should applaud efforts to apply scientific standards to the question, not oppose them. At least the scientists are taking religion seriously, unlike those who simply stay in whatever church they were raised in and believe whatever they're told to believe.

That's silly. There are scientists who take it serously and there are believers. There are scientists who don't take it seriously and there are believers who don't. This is all too black and white thinking if you ask me. There is, afterall, a mix of the two in us all.

[_Buffalo]

That's the thing, Stem - if you want to make an informed decision, you need to test whether the "pray to find out if Mormonism is true" test is actually reliable. There's no way to know without testing it.

The reliability of it is found in the results. Not just whether you feel inspired that the Book of Mormon is true of course. its also in by living the teachings and seeing how it affects your life. If that doesn't work for you, I'll go ahead and assume God knowing your situation and predicament has something in mind for you.

Using Moroni's promise, many Latter-day Saints have come to the conclusion that Warren Jeffs is God's prophet in these Latter Days. Are these the results you were thinking of?

[_Buffalo]

But setting up your own method of how it ought to work and then playing with the method already defined to see if you can make it work for you is a game.

Are you afraid to use the scientific on your method because you think it will anger God, or because you're afraid it will show that your method is unreliable?

The scientific method has been humanity's most successful means of discerning truth from error, bar none.

[_stemelbow]

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heh...cute.

Are you afraid to use the scientific on your method because you think it will anger God, or because you're afraid it will show that your method is unreliable?

The scientific method has been humanity's most successful means of discerning truth from error, bar none.

Not afraid. Just don't find it workable here. the method is established and it works for me. To try and change the method because you want it to work differently seems, well silly. Its not your method to change.

[_Drifting]

The reliability of it is found in the results. Not just whether you feel inspired that the Book of Mormon is true of course. its also in by living the teachings and seeing how it affects your life. If that doesn't work for you, I'll go ahead and assume God knowing your situation and predicament has something in mind for you.

Doesn't it give you pause for thought to consider that, except for less than 0.2% of the entire world's population, God has something other than Mormonism in mind?

[_Buffalo]

Not afraid. Just don't find it workable here. the method is established and it works for me. To try and change the method because you want it to work differently seems, well silly. Its not your method to change.

I've been told that God uses natural law to bring about his great works. Natural law is subject to the scientific method.

So, again, what are you afraid of, Stem?

[Guest]

heh...cute.

It tells you a lot about the reliability of your method.

[_Cardinal Biggles]

The testing of Moroni's promise takes place week in and week out. Large numbers of people are exposed to the contents of the Book of Mormon but God chooses to only manifest the truth of it to a very small minority each year.

Moroni's Promise reminds me SO much of the con that was being played in the movie "Two For The Money." Especially in view of ETB's admonition to "flood the Earth with the Book of Mormon." If you send the book to enough people, odds are that at least some of them will "get the feeling" and interpret it as an answer from God. The same result (maybe even a better one) could be achieved if the Promise said "surely ye shall sneeze if this record be true." Chances are, some people will sneeze. Not many, but some.

I've tried the Promise. I'm still waiting for an answer. It's been years. Until I get one, I'm sure that God won't mind that I live my life my own way.