Mormons coming over for christmas dinner

[_Doctor Scratch]

stem, you told Rambo that he'd be "rude" to enforce boundaries in his own house. If you can't see how and why that's problematic, then there's probably no help for you.

[_Rambo]

That's silly, Rambo. You know this group of people as those who are Mormons. They aren't pushing things on you so much as doing what they've always done, that is if they even elect to pray. You should expect them to want to pray because its important to them. To treat it as if you're new position is far more important than letting them pray is rude.

They aren't just some random folks going out of their way, I don't think, to find a way to say a prayer in your house. My goodness.

Stem would you go into an athiests perons house even though they have been your friend forever and insist you have a prayer before dinner.

When I went to my non Mormon friends house I never insisted to have a prayer before dinner. It was their house and they could choose if they want to do that. It would have been rude for me to insist on it.

[_Drifting]

Rambo,

There is nothing to stop the Mormons saying their prayer silently in their head whilst they are in your home. The need to include you (and whoever else) is driven by their need (which may be subconcious) to show all non Mormons the right way of doing things and sadly Mormons generally are not great at respecting personal boundaries.

Let them bless the food, but let them do it silently in their head without involving anybody else.

In their house their rules apply.

[_stemelbow]

Scratch said since they made the food then they can bless it.

Damn you are hard to talk too.

Oh don't get all worked up on account of me. As I said, Scratch said let them pray and so did I. I'm glad his explanation served its purpose for you.

[_Ceeboo]

Ohhhhhh, Rambo is Canadian! (This explains a lot) :)

Christmas? OK. Well Merry Christmas to you and yours then.



by the way: I spend a lot of time with the bride in Windsor (about 35 minute drive from the Ceeboo family). LOVE it and LOVE the colored money! :)

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_stemelbow]

stem, you told Rambo that he'd be "rude" to enforce boundaries in his own house. If you can't see how and why that's problematic, then there's probably no help for you.

No. Set up boundaries. I would say it would be rude for him to tell them they can't offer a simple prayer amongst each other. He can set up all sorts of boundaries at his house all he wants. That doesn't mean the boundaries can't be rude. Say he has a working toilet. He invites people over for a period of 4 hours. Its likely someone would need to use the toilet during that time, but he decides to set up a boundary by making a rule that none of his guests can use his toilet. They may have to head down the street to use the public facilities at the store or something. That would be a rude boundary to enforce I'd say.

[_Drifting]

stem, you told Rambo that he'd be "rude" to enforce boundaries in his own house. If you can't see how and why that's problematic, then there's probably no help for you.

No. Set up boundaries. I would say it would be rude for him to tell them they can't offer a simple prayer amongst each other. He can set up all sorts of boundaries at his house all he wants. That doesn't mean the boundaries can't be rude. Say he has a working toilet. He invites people over for a period of 4 hours. Its likely someone would need to use the toilet during that time, but he decides to set up a boundary by making a rule that none of his guests can use his toilet. They may have to head down the street to use the public facilities at the store or something. That would be a rude boundary to enforce I'd say.

Yet another hypothetical stemelbow? Tssk...Tssk....

[_stemelbow]

Stem would you go into an athiests perons house even though they have been your friend forever and insist you have a prayer before dinner.

No.

When I went to my non Mormon friends house I never insisted to have a prayer before dinner. It was their house and they could choose if they want to do that. It would have been rude for me to insist on it.

Agreed. I didn't think this was the scenario though.

[_stemelbow]

Yet another hypothetical stemelbow? Tssk...Tssk....

I said hypotheticals are tough to answer--as in "if such and such happens, and blah blah blah..then what would you do"? They are tough in that I don't know exactly what I'd do. I can wager a guess I suppose but sometimes its not that easy. The conditions may require me a whole different paradigm shift.

Hope that helps. I do not say hypotheticals are useless or can't serve a purpose. Hopefully we can drop this from now on. Probably not, huh?

[_Drifting]

Yet another hypothetical stemelbow? Tssk...Tssk....

I said hypotheticals are tough to answer--as in "if such and such happens, and blah blah blah..then what would you do"? They are tough in that I don't know exactly what I'd do. I can wager a guess I suppose but sometimes its not that easy. The conditions may require me a whole different paradigm shift.

Hope that helps. I do not say hypotheticals are useless or can't serve a purpose. Hopefully we can drop this from now on. Probably not, huh?

If you readily acknowledge how tough they are for you to answer why do you use them to question others? Hypocrisy perhaps?