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_Kishkumen
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Runtu wrote:I started on alt.religion.Mormon in 1995, but it wasn't until 2005 that I finally acknowledged what I think I'd known for a long time.


I was hanging out with a married couple at about that time (1997), both of them had been in the same undergraduate program with me. We met in class and are still friends. I distinctly recall a conversation with them in which I lined up all of the problems that I understood about the Church's claims. I didn't think much of it at the time, because from my point of view I was simply discussing the difficulty with apologetic arguments. I was still active, and I would continue to be active for the next 8 years. But unbeknownst to me the conversation completely devastated their testimonies. They didn't tell me until just last year. It was strange because they even invited me to watch the husband give a talk in sacrament meeting after that very conversation. To this day I feel pretty guilty about it.
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_LDSToronto
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I hope god forgives you for your sins against the English language.

At least we still have Loran.

H.
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_Simon Belmont

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Good on ya, stem.

My turn will come.
_thews
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Simon Belmont wrote:My turn will come.


Translation... I will tuck tail eventually as I have nothing to back up anything I say.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.
2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth & turn aside to myths
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stemelbow wrote: In a way I'd like to stick around, but I realize no matter what I do and say things will be parsed, mocking will continue and ultimately discussion will be halted. I've come to realize more than anything, here we have the ironically named "Discussion" board. Truly its far more about mocking and deriding and high fiving bullies and back slapping for displays of anger than discussion.


A late realisation is better than never having a realisation.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Runtu wrote:I started on alt.religion.Mormon in 1995, but it wasn't until 2005 that I finally acknowledged what I think I'd known for a long time.


I was hanging out with a married couple at about that time (1997), both of them had been in the same undergraduate program with me. We met in class and are still friends. I distinctly recall a conversation with them in which I lined up all of the problems that I understood about the Church's claims. I didn't think much of it at the time, because from my point of view I was simply discussing the difficulty with apologetic arguments. I was still active, and I would continue to be active for the next 8 years. But unbeknownst to me the conversation completely devastated their testimonies. They didn't tell me until just last year. It was strange because they even invited me to watch the husband give a talk in sacrament meeting after that very conversation. To this day I feel pretty guilty about it.

You liberated them, Reverend, through information. Why the guilt, professor?
_Kishkumen
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sock puppet wrote:You liberated them, Reverend, through information. Why the guilt, professor?


I don't like the knowledge that I can have such an impact on the lives of others.
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Kishkumen wrote:
sock puppet wrote:You liberated them, Reverend, through information. Why the guilt, professor?


I don't like the knowledge that I can have such an impact on the lives of others.

I can empathize with that sentiment. I had the political connections and through back channels was once offered a judgeship, but turned it down for the very reason that I did not want to have such an impact on the lives of others.
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LDSToronto wrote:I hope god forgives you for your sins against the English language.


For some sins there is no forgiveness.
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