Top 10 creepiest things about the church

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Re: Top 10 creepiest things about the church

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No guilt-tripping here:

Now, my young friends, and I am sorry to say, many adults, how about all those of you who have a masturbation problem? If the names of those who had the problem were projected across this big, huge scroll, would your name be there, or would you be able to sit back confident and pure in heart?

And, in a few cases, what if we had the names of those who had a homosexual problem? What if their names were on this huge scroll? Their names removed, then what if we had those who are adulterers, who are serving in priesthood positions, unbeknownst to many, unbeknownst unto anyone except themselves and the partner in sin?

Again let us talk about a self-inflicting purging. My young friends, how about all of you who have committed fornication? Or have been involved in petting? Suppose their names were on this huge scroll, so that all may see. Now, I can tell you this, I bear my solemn witness that if you do not self-inflict a purging in your lives, the time may well come when there might not be a scroll, but it will be as though there were. It may be as though it had been shouted from the tops of houses. People cannot hide sin. You cannot mock God and hold the Lord's holy priesthood and pretend to propose that you are his servant.

I know of a great man who held his dead son in his arms, and said, "In the name of Jesus Christ and by the power and authority of the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood, I command you to live." And the dead boy opened up his eyes. This great brother could not have possibly done that had he been looking at a pornographic piece of material a few nights before or if he had been involved in any other transgression of that kind. The priesthood has to have a pure conduit to operate.


So, you masturbate or look at porn, and God is going to kill your son?
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Re: Top 10 creepiest things about the church

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Quasimodo wrote:
I've noticed that why me is always participating in the masturbation discussions despite his objections. If he were Mormon, I might list him as one of the ten creepiest things about the church.


But I never start them. The masturbation threads usually have a single root to draw from. Yes, I do participate but only because they are so superficial. They need a reality check.
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And Kip Eliason was mistaken for feeling guilty about his masturbation when he wrote this letter:

"Dear Dad,
I love you more than what words can say. If it were possible, I would stay alive for only you, for I really only have you. But it isn't possible. I must first love myself, and I do not. The strange feeling of darkness and self-hate overpowers all my defenses. I must unfortunately yield to it. This turbulent feeling is only for a few to truly understand. I feel that you do not comprehend the immense feeling of self-hatred I have. This is the only way I feel that I can relieve myself of these feelings now. Carry on with your life and be happy. I love you more than words can say.
—Your son, Kip"


No guilt was intended here, either:

"The young man is untrue to his manhood who promises popularity, good times, security, fun and even love, when all he can give is passion and its diabolical fruits — guilt complexes, disgust, hatred, abhorrence, eventual loathing, and possible pregnancy without legitimacy and honor."


None here, either:

"Immorality [petting, premarital sex, adultery, homosexuality and masturbation] brings generally a guilt deep and lasting. These guilt complexes are the stuff of which mental breakdowns come; they are the building blocks of suicide, the fabric of distorted personalities and the wounds that scar and decapitate individuals or families."
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Re: Top 10 creepiest things about the church

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why me wrote:
But I never start them. The masturbation threads usually have a single root to draw from. Yes, I do participate but only because they are so superficial. They need a reality check.


I don't know, why me. I think the masturbation subject lays heavy on the minds of Mormons (maybe Catholics as well) because it was portrayed to them as an evil. Even though it is something that is universally practiced. Everyone does it.

We are all sexual beings. We all have that desire in common. When the church that rules ones very life condemns actions that are physically required by all adolescents, it puts a person in an untenable position.

It's as though a higher authority proclaimed that drinking water was evil. You would still have to drink, but every sip would make you feel guilty.

No wonder that it appears in threads so often. I'm sure that there is something "subconscious" going on.
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11. That an untrained adult male is encouraged to inquire into the sexual activity of couples, single adults and under age children.
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PSA: Don't feed the creepy sex troll.

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why me wrote:The masturbation threads usually have a single root to draw from.


Um.
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Blixa wrote:PSA: Don't feed the creepy sex troll.

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Is this where why me launders his light cotton?
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Re: Top 10 creepiest things about the church

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Runtu wrote:Light cotton.


This looks like an inside joke. Can someone fill me in?
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Re: Top 10 creepiest things about the church

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Buffalo wrote:Cobalt 70 from MAD found this:

http://contentdm.lib.BYU.edu/cdm4/docum ... SHOW=18859

Here's another old LDS publication (http://contentdm.lib...du/u?/YWJ,18859), which gives a rather different take on the eternal consequences of "immodesty" in which Elder George F. Richards counsels young women in 1916:

"The lustful eye caused by immodest dress condemns one as an adulterer at heart which means a loss of spirituality, and in some instances a loss of virtue. Consider here, where does the responsibility primarily belong?

"What would one of our girls think or how would she feel if after marriage she should learn from her husband that before marriage by reason of her immodest dress and exposed person he had been so overcome by lust as to resort to haunts of vice for gratification and there formed the habits and possibly contracted the disease which is henceforth to be her greatest trial, her greatest curse. This picture I do not believe to be overdrawn. If her husband has escaped, some one else's husband or son may be the victim."


I read that thread and I think Cobalt 70 got even creepier with his views on women and "femininity".
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