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_Lizard Jew
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by _Lizard Jew » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:36 pm
harmony wrote: Lizard Jew wrote: the destruction of their movement. you know the whole turning from the lord thing.
By that criteria, the LDS has been under condemnation for generations.
i guess you think the church has turned from the lord without the lord telling them?
john 3:16 is overused.
_Molok
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by _Molok » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:37 pm
Lizard Jew wrote: i guess you think the church has turned from the lord without the lord telling them?
Just when Joseph Smith violated every commandment related to polygamy. That would be right about the time the church turned from the lord.
_Lizard Jew
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by _Lizard Jew » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:39 pm
Molok wrote: Lizard Jew wrote: i guess you think the church has turned from the lord without the lord telling them?
Just when Joseph Smith violated every commandment related to polygamy. That would be right about the time the church turned from the lord.
i don't believe that at all.
joseph smith didn't reveal the rules for himself but for less understanding saints to come.
for the weakest of the saints kind of thing.
john 3:16 is overused.
_Quasimodo
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by _Quasimodo » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:40 pm
harmony wrote: Quasimodo wrote: The best thing that could happen to them all (both financially and emotionally) would be for the FLDS church to fade away. Maybe it will.
Who is running it now? Who has control of the money and assets?
Harmony, you're forcing me to Google!
Looks like this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merril_Jessop I think he must still be answering to Jeffs in prison, though.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value. "Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
_Quasimodo
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by _Quasimodo » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:41 pm
Lizard Jew wrote: joseph smith didn't reveal the rules for himself but for less understanding saints to come. for the weakest of the saints kind of thing.
That's very funny! I hope you were joking.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value. "Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
_Molok
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by _Molok » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:42 pm
Lizard Jew wrote: i don't believe that at all. joseph smith didn't reveal the rules for himself but for less understanding saints to come. for the weakest of the saints kind of thing.
Well, I totally agree with you. Joseph Smith definitely had a different standard for himself, one that was apparently quite a bit less strict than the standard his followers were expected to live up to. You've got me dead to rights there.
_Buffalo
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by _Buffalo » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:42 pm
Lizard Jew wrote: i don't believe that at all. joseph smith didn't reveal the rules for himself but for less understanding saints to come. for the weakest of the saints kind of thing.
D&C 132 was supposedly the original revelation God gave Joseph on polygamy. And Joseph violated it left and right.
Parley P. Pratt wrote: We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote: There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
_harmony
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by _harmony » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:42 pm
Lizard Jew wrote: i guess you think the church has turned from the lord without the lord telling them?
Fanny, LJ. It's all been downhill since Fanny.
And yes, God has tried to correct the errors often. I blame the men who just refuse to listen. Can't blame the women... we have nothing to do with decisions made, money spent, sinning covered up.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
_Lizard Jew
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by _Lizard Jew » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:44 pm
think about. joseph smith was practicing polygamy way back, no need for this revelation yet. god had already explained it pretty well and helped joseph. only near the end of his life did god see fit to get it on paper. for who? for the saints to come. easy peasy
john 3:16 is overused.
_Lizard Jew
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by _Lizard Jew » Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:45 pm
Buffalo wrote: Lizard Jew wrote: i don't believe that at all. joseph smith didn't reveal the rules for himself but for less understanding saints to come. for the weakest of the saints kind of thing.
D&C 132 was supposedly the original revelation God gave Joseph on polygamy. And Joseph violated it left and right.
it was the original for the church.
that's why it is in the DC.
that's why the first one isn't.
it wasn't for the rest.
john 3:16 is overused.