The ultimate fate of women in LDS theology

[_just me]

I love that we have so many awesome ninjas on the forum who can find such gems so quickly!

[_harmony]

Sisters, I testify that when you stand in front of your heavenly parents in those royal courts on high and look into Her eyes and behold Her countenance, any question you ever had about the role of women in the kingdom will evaporate into the rich celestial air, because at that moment you will see standing directly in front of you, your divine nature and destiny. I say this in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

Good catch. I don't watch the relief society broadcast.[/quote]

The Relief Society broadcast is not part of general conference, nor is the Seventy part of the Brethren.

[_MsJack]

Good catch. I don't watch the relief society broadcast.

It wasn't a Relief Society broadcast; it was a devotional at BYU. I happened to be visiting the campus the week it was given, so I remember it.

I don't think that the LDS church is going to remove Heavenly Mother from its doctrine anytime soon. I also don't think it will give her a more prominent role than she already has. Her amorphous form is quite useful for reinforcing the current gender roles that the church wishes to promote. What Elder Pace said in that talk is as good as it gets as far as mentioning her or talking about her.

[_Aristotle Smith]

Good catch. I don't watch the relief society broadcast.

It wasn't a Relief Society broadcast; it was a devotional at BYU. I happened to be visiting the campus the week it was given, so I remember it.

I don't think that the LDS church is going to remove Heavenly Mother from its doctrine anytime soon. I also don't think it will give her a more prominent role than she already has. Her amorphous form is quite useful for reinforcing the current gender roles that the church wishes to promote. What Elder Pace said in that talk is as good as it gets as far as mentioning her or talking about her.

But what would Valerie Hudson say?

[_harmony]

So... where is the general conference address (by one of the Brethren, since those are the only ones that count) wherein HM is the main topic?

[_MsJack]

But what would Valerie Hudson say?

Why you gotta be like that, David? You know that being reminded of Hudson's arguments on Mormons and gender makes my eye twitch.

So... where is the general conference address (by one of the Brethren, since those are the only ones that count) wherein HM is the main topic?

I'm not aware of any such talk. Heavenly Mother wasn't even the main topic of the talk I cited; she just received a surprising 15 seconds of spotlight at the end of the talk.

[_zeezrom]

The Bretheren in SLC should try an experiment. Rather than attempt communications with God in the upper room of the SL Temple with their cushy plush recliners, they should try some new locations like next to a brook or under a bay laurel tree. This might help them realize that Heavenly Father is no longer in control. I think it would go a long way for them to finally realize the truth.

[_aussieguy55]

It's interesting that day I view this thread I also have downloaded Scott McKnight's e-book Junia Is Not Alone
Romans 16:7 which seems to indicate the there was a woman apostle, Junia.
McKnight argues that earlier translations indicate that she was a woman. It was Luther who started the damage in his translation. Later scholars of the Greek text "Junia was a woman in the Old Latin, the Vulgate, Sahidic and Bohairic Coptic and Syriac"

It's an interesting book showing how mistranslations get handed down and are accepted as correct. "Nestle silenced Junia and gave birth to a new Christian man named Junias" His book is an interesing read, only 2.99 download and Amazon give you free software in order to read it

Seems a difficult text for LDS to handle. A woman with/without the priesthood a GA?

[_bcspace]

The ultimate fate of women in LDS theology

Goddess and Co-Creator. Nothing is better as the ultimate fate of men is the same (sans the -ess).

[_just me]

The ultimate fate of women in LDS theology

Goddess and Co-Creator. Nothing is better as the ultimate fate of men is the same (sans the -ess).

What does that mean? What are the responsibilities that come with that title? What will women do in that role?