liz3564 wrote: I agree that some defenders are not treated the way they should be, and I do my best to come to their defense when it happens. It is also true that some defenders plow in with guns blazing, and are also guilty of personal attacks.
I don't think that you necessarily have a proper view of Blixa. I don't see her as aloof at all. Of course, I have known her a lot longer than you have. Maybe you just haven't read enough of her posts?
Blixa grew up in the Church...actually grew up in Utah, even though she now resides in NY. Although she has critical views of Church doctrine, she has always shown respect toward both LDS history and Mormonism as a religion.
As strange as this may seem, Blixa and I might actually know each other. Not now but in the past. This would depend if she was in New York in the late 70's and in the early 80's. I wouldn't be surprised if we crossed paths. But she is certainly not prolds. I have not seen her defend the LDS church at all. There are very few defenders on this board now. And even fewer who are here on a regular basis.
Blixa is currently over on another thread saying that the reports of rapes during MMM are not deemed by historians to be true or accurate. She does that frequently. She is respectful even when she points out problems with the LDS doctrines or practices.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
liz3564 wrote: Blixa has not defended doctrine, but I have seen her defend LDS posters, and other various members of the Church. She has also shown a historic reverence toward both the Church, the Church's history, and her upbringing.
This. You beat me to it.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Now just me, of course you are a privileged person on this board. You are treated like a princess. You have the mother of the board on your side:liz and you have a good defender also: consig.
Be thankful but you must also see that not all are so lucky.
Um, no. People just like pointing out when you have stepped in it. It has less to do with me than with your approach.
Although I do love liz and consig A LOT. They are both frickin' awesome people.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
liz3564 wrote: Blixa has not defended doctrine, but I have seen her defend LDS posters, and other various members of the Church. She has also shown a historic reverence toward both the Church, the Church's history, and her upbringing.
Just Me wrote:Blixa is currently over on another thread saying that the reports of rapes during MMM are not deemed by historians to be true or accurate. She does that frequently. She is respectful even when she points out problems with the LDS doctrines or practices.
liz3564 wrote:Also, Why Me, do you contest that I have treated you unfairly from a Moderator and/or a poster's perspective?
No, you haven't. In fact, my skin is pretty thick. I don't take it all personally. But many of the defenders don't have thick skins. They leave. I think that when critics begin to insult defenders, the moderators should step in to cool down the personal name callings etc. Maybe this would get the defenders to stay a little longer.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
just me wrote: Blixa is currently over on another thread saying that the reports of rapes during MMM are not deemed by historians to be true or accurate. She does that frequently. She is respectful even when she points out problems with the LDS doctrines or practices.
And why not if a critic got it wrong? But I would like to see her begin a thread that is prolds.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
just me wrote: Blixa is currently over on another thread saying that the reports of rapes during MMM are not deemed by historians to be true or accurate. She does that frequently. She is respectful even when she points out problems with the LDS doctrines or practices.
And why not if a critic got it wrong? But I would like to see her begin a thread that is prolds.
I have started more than one proLDS thread.
It doesn't matter if Blixa hasn't started any proLDS threads. She is not necessarily "proLDS" and it certainly should be up to the believers to start proLDS threads if they think they are important.
A critic can be fair without being proLDS. Being a critic kinda sorta means that you are not proLDS...by definition.
I wouldn't expect a believer/defender to start a thread critical of the LDS church...would you?
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
just me wrote:I have started more than one proLDS thread.
It doesn't matter if Blixa hasn't started any proLDS threads. She is not necessarily "proLDS" and it certainly should be up to the believers to start proLDS threads if they think they are important.
A critic can be fair without being proLDS. Being a critic kinda sorta means that you are not proLDS...by definition.
I wouldn't expect a believer/defender to start a thread critical of the LDS church...would you?
There's a difference between being fair and keeping a tally of the ratio of positive statements about the church to negative statements. I've had people demand that I start pro-Mormon threads (and I have), and I have always expressed admiration for church members and for many of the beliefs and programs of the church. But that really doesn't matter to a lot of people. I say what I think, and often that isn't exactly the church party line. But I try to be as fair as possible in my discussions of the church. But being fair doesn't mean I force myself to be positive all the time.
Runtu wrote: There's a difference between being fair and keeping a tally of the ratio of positive statements about the church to negative statements. I've had people demand that I start pro-Mormon threads (and I have), and I have always expressed admiration for church members and for many of the beliefs and programs of the church. But that really doesn't matter to a lot of people. I say what I think, and often that isn't exactly the church party line. But I try to be as fair as possible in my discussions of the church. But being fair doesn't mean I force myself to be positive all the time.
Exactly. I am also amazed at the shifting of the complaint. First the problem is that critics name call and sling poo...now it is that they need to start proLDS threads. It is ridiculous.
ETA: And if we are gonna talk about fair I don't think that many of the defenders can claim that they are always fair to the critics or the critical POV.
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~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~