Robert E. Lee's opinion on slavery

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Re: Robert E. Lee's opinion on slavery

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Yes, that article is incredibly racist.


How so? Maybe it's just uncomfortable truths.

Asking what if it is true is like asking "What if Mormons did sacrifice infants in the temple. Would it be bigoted to point it out then?!" Well, no, but there's the rub, isn't it?


Exactly.
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BCSpace, does your Bishop know you associate with ARM?


When I first read the article, I didn't even know what ARM was.
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bcspace wrote:
BCSpace, does your Bishop know you associate with ARM?


When I first read the article, I didn't even know what ARM was.


Ah, but when you posted it you did.

bcspace wrote:
I think bcspace was unaware that the document he was pimping was put out by a white supremacist. Like a lot of ring wing nuts, he's a little racist, but loath to actually be associated with blatant racists, even if he agrees with their racist views.


I'll be willing to bet you agree with many of the ideas in that article; at least in subconscious reaction, you're very likely to be a racist (an NAACP notion by the way). But no, I knew what the article was from when I posted it here which is why it reminded me of Robert E Lee. But when I first read it a few years ago, no, I did not initially know what it was from. But just because I archive it for later reference does not mean I agree with it. I have a lot of anti Mormon stuff archived as well and I certainly don't agree with those.


http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=545166#p545166
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Re: Robert E. Lee's opinion on slavery

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Ah, but when you posted it you did.


That is correct. So how is my comparing it to Robert E Lee's attitude an endorsement of it?
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Re: Robert E. Lee's opinion on slavery

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bcspace wrote:
Ah, but when you posted it you did.


That is correct. So how is my comparing it to Robert E Lee's attitude an endorsement of it?

I wasn't aware that anyone claimed that it was. What people have said is that the article you posted was racist, as was the site that hosted it.
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How so? Maybe it is just uncomfortable truths?

I know you are trolling and all, but I hope this gets traced back to you so when people google your name, this is what comes up. Africans on average do not not have an inherited deficiency in abstract thinking that makes them have a reduced capacity for moral thinking/behavior, mathematics, time management, etc. If you don't understand why that's racist, I'm afraid that's for another person to explain. Congratulations on managing to link that without using the word n*****.
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bc just likes to remind us of his true nature now and then.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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Re: Robert E. Lee's opinion on slavery

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BC space stated, on a related thread,
" I would tend to agree that most discrimination against blacks now comes from themselves or their enslaved and NAACP driven imaginations."

I am puzzled about perceptions. I perceive the NAACP as long encouraging black achievement, not black dependancy. As a result this statement sounds to my ears to be as racist as the website of hard core propoganda linked to compare to Mr Lee.

Lee does not do well with the comparison. There is a clear link between the two views however.
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Re: Robert E. Lee's opinion on slavery

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EAllusion wrote:Yes, that article is incredibly racist. Asking what if it is true is like asking "What if Mormons did sacrifice infants in the temple. Would it be bigoted to point it out then?!" Well, no, but there's the rub, isn't it?


Or, what if Joseph Smith or any other LDS leader the what someone points out, does that make the person a "anti-mormon" for documenting good and "bad" of LDS leaders and LDS Church history.

Or is it bigoted or anti-mormon to point out that LDS people are lousy tippers? Or have a persecution complex?

The answer of course is Yes, you are an anti-mormon if you present anything which appears to be negative about the LDS Church.

So to answer bcspace question, yes it is racist.
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Re: Robert E. Lee's opinion on slavery

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ajax18 wrote:Admittedly all races have their problems and have fallen short of the glory of God. God Himself pulled no punches when calling out the problems in his own race.

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"problems in his own race"
I am not escaping curioisity about which race this is referring to. Ajax, you went on to state there was a biological dimension to conflict between races. If you are referring to the long human history of groups treating outsiders with hostility, I can understand a biological principal of competitive survival at work. Race would be one of several possible grouping mechanisms that involve conflict. Considering French and English perhaps the English Channel is another such principal.

I may or may not have strong leftist influences in my background. Either way it is no suprise to me that some blacks are hostile to my white identity. Of course. It is a normal safety consideration to realize that in a black area I may be more likely to be the target of hostile and predatory intentions.
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