It's official: Obama backs same-sex marriage.

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Re: It's official: Obama backs same-sex marriage.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... ml?hpid=z2

So apparently Romney and his schoolboy posse cut the hair off an effeminate class mate. At least he showed leadership:

Mitt Romney returned from a three-week spring break in 1965 to resume his studies as a high school senior at the prestigious Cranbrook School. Back on the handsome campus, studded with Tudor brick buildings and manicured fields, he spotted something he thought did not belong at a school where the boys wore ties and carried briefcases. John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it.

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a preparation school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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Re: It's official: Obama backs same-sex marriage.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... ml?hpid=z2

So apparently Romney and his schoolboy posse cut the hair off an effeminate class mate. At least he showed leadership:

Mitt Romney returned from a three-week spring break in 1965 to resume his studies as a high school senior at the prestigious Cranbrook School. Back on the handsome campus, studded with Tudor brick buildings and manicured fields, he spotted something he thought did not belong at a school where the boys wore ties and carried briefcases. John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it.

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a preparation school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it.
I avoid church religiously.
This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
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Romney said he didn’t remember the incident
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Re: It's official: Obama backs same-sex marriage.

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Drifting wrote:
Romney said he didn’t remember the incident


Too bad five witnesses recounted the story independently.

How did Seamus the dog get back from Canada? Romney's kids should go on record I think.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it.
I avoid church religiously.
This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
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Re: It's official: Obama backs same-sex marriage.

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The quick response non-apology apology:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it.
I avoid church religiously.
This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
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I could always post videos of the people who Obama supported in the overthrow of Libya torturing POWs. Does that could as bullying?
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Someone who paid attention to the Republican primary season could easily buy into the image of Romney as a bully, considering the way he and his PAC beat the hell out of his opponents with a merciless onslaught of negative attack ads. Gingrich and Santorum seemed pretty bitter about it.

Then there are all those who ended up unemployed and without their pensions after Bain came along to "help" their companies.
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Just in time for an election and only after polling numbers strongly favor the position. Yay for moral cowardice.
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EAllusion wrote:Just in time for an election and only after polling numbers strongly favor the position. Yay for moral cowardice.


I agree but think he's only part coward. I figured he would have waited until after the election to come out in favor but always thought he was a closeted supporter of gay marriage. If he was a total coward he would have waited until he either won or lost the 2012 election to voice his support.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07

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I avoid church religiously.
This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
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Bond James Bond wrote: If he was a total coward he would have waited until he either won or lost the 2012 election to voice his support.

Why? The polling is on his side at this point and gets stronger with every day. Even the tone of the conversation favors the socially liberal position. Gay marriage has flipped from a wedge issue that Republicans can use in their favor to drive votes to a borderline wedge issue Democrats can use in their favor. Anyone paying attention to analysis of the demography has known that this was going to flip around this time - and it did. It's a milkbone to toss liberals that is no longer a politically dangerous position to stake out. It absolutely was cowardice to wait until that point.
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