All or Nothing? An Apologist View of NOMs

[_Chap]

Assuming they are no longer trying to believe, NOM's have no place in the Church.

You don't believe what the Church teaches, either. And anyway, the Church is a pretty big tent. You've already conceded that there is nothing in LDS doctrine that precludes gay sex, nor any official position as to whether Joseph Smith was a prophet or whether the Church is true.

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If a man should li with another man as he would a woman, it shall be an abomination. Pretty harsh.

JMS

You know, if you are going to quote scripture, you need to do it right. Nothing about 'a man shall not' in the actual text - it is a simple imperative in the Hebrew 'la thshkb' (not thou-shalt-lie-down)

Leviticus 18:22, King James Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

My lesbian friends have told me that they have gained a deep sense of Biblical affirmation of their life-style from this passage.

[_Chap]

Oh by the way, in 1843 Joseph Smith took to wife both the Partridge sisters, did he not?

And before that, he married Patty Bartlett (Sessions) a month after marrying her daughter, Sylvia Porter Sessions Lyon.

But according to Leviticus 18, both of those actions were pretty disreputable: of the second, the Hebrew says that it is 'zme' (lit: lewdness).

17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son’s daughter, or her daughter’s daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.

18 Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.

Once you start reading scripture, it is hard to know where to stop.

[_Buffalo]

Assuming they are no longer trying to believe, NOM's have no place in the Church.

I fully support the church kicking out all NOMs, liberal Mormons, and cafeteria Mormons.