Censorship on Exmormon.org

[_solomarineris]

Given the significance of Daniel Peterson's current troubles at Maxwell House, I posted about this on RFM. I immediately ran foul of the RFM censors.

The "moderators" at RFM use keywords to automatically block some posts. As a result I couldn't post a link to the appropriate thread on this board. I then mentioned the name of this board in my post. In frustration at the censorship I copied the two critical letters; Jerry Bradford's letter to DCP and DCPs now famous response. I have just now observed that the censors have removed the mention of "Mormon Discussions" from my post on RFM. It now says "From another board".

Over the last 4-5 years I have had many of my posts at RFM censored, and not for political reasons. There was a time when just the mention of John Dehlin's name in a post was enough to cause it to be removed. The removal of links to, or mentions of other, exmormon boards is extremely petty.



This is not the work of Eric Kettunen, but one or a number of paranoid moderators. If you are a regular visitor to RFM you should be aware that this is going on.

I don't know what the hell RFM brass is thinking by censoring you, other than being afraid of their own shadows.

[_MCB]

I notice that they are in "database error" mode while the issue is being discussed here.

[Guest]

DCP has been throughly covered at RfM.

RfM has treated you just fine over the years SS, it would seem like you would have better things to do than whine censorship like DCP when you didn't get your exact way exactly when and how you wanted it. How much money did you contribute to the board up grade, SS?

While it must pain DCP terribly that someone on RfM doesn't know who he is, not everbody is as in to the personalities of Mormon apologetics as the residents of the one and only true Trailer Park. So let's not sneer.

I've benefited greatly from RfM over the last 15 years and like it a lot here at MD too. Keep up the good work Eric and Susan I/S.

Before RfM did it's upgrade, there were a # of threads on what posters wanted. None of them wanted avatars or titles for posters.

Different strokes for different board owners, what an un-Mormon idea.

Can't we all just get along. Rest in peace Rodney.[/color]

I am comfortable with a board filling a niche. It troubles me that a moderator at RFM would remove links to a board filling another niche. Whats the point? Are they trying to prevent newcomers from moving to another board? If they are then that seems petty and unhelpful. Maybe its a result of RFMs history. I know there were some bitter board wars in the earliest years.

Years ago I tried to post links to some of John Dehlin's material because while I didn't feel comfortable with John's NOM-like approach back then, I felt some could benefit from seeing what John was doing. Unfortunately, for quite a while all references to John were removed. This seems unhealthy and a sign that at least one moderator isn't getting along with folk at other boards.

[_The Dude]

Are they trying to prevent newcomers from moving to another board?

I think that is the main reason. Maybe the only reason.

[_lulu]

Are they trying to prevent newcomers from moving to another board?

I think that is the main reason. Maybe the only reason.

Yah, I think that's it, there's fierce and vicious competion out there for advertizing dollars.

[_angsty]

This seems unhealthy and a sign that at least one moderator isn't getting along with folk at other boards.

That I know of there's little, if any, interaction between the moderators of RfM and other boards. From what I understand, there's a desire there to keep focus and not waste bandwidth by encouraging looky-loos and trolls, and board wars. RfM is high-traffic, not cheap, and a moderator's nightmare. I don't think it's unreasonable for them to set limits in order to keep focus.

It's not like people there aren't able to find this board, or that it's never discussed-- or that there aren't posters who read/post on both boards (myself and lulu being examples). The idea that the censorship is enacted to prevent that seems silly.

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,45

[_Simon Southerton]

The idea that the censorship is enacted to prevent that seems silly.

It might seem silly to you but that's what it looks like when the words "Mormon Discussions" were removed from my post and replaced with "another board". It looks like they don't want to direct traffic to other boards.

If the content of the post was not relevant to RFM I could understand. But the sacking of DCP was of interest to many on RFM. There were many who commented.

[_Simon Southerton]

Can't we all just get along.

That's what I would like to see. All other boards allow links to posts on other boards. It would be good if RFM did the same.

[_Infymus]

I also have a long history with Susan I/S. Susan doesn't like other boards or blogs and she adds keywords to her post banlist all the time. Mormoncurtain or Ex Mormon Forums are forbidden links.

I don't have it online anymore but there was a time when Susan threatened me with litigation if I didn't take the material on the MC down. She claimed all of the material posted by everyone on RFM was copyrighted by her and Eric. I challenged her copyright claims - she then stated that RFM had two attorneys who were demanding I take it down. I asked for their names, she refused to give them up.

Finally, in the end, there were no attorneys, it was just her being pissy. She is paranoid and she is an outright liar. From what I've heard she is also a shut-in who never leaves her house.

Either way, she runs RFM the way she wants. I won't name names, but she protects certain posts on RFM with extreme prejudice. She will delete ANY post that goes against the RFM celebrities only feeding their huge egos. Susan is very jealous and believes that only RFM should be the center of Ex-Mormonism. This is why she outright bans linking to other sites.

Simon, my site reaches about 18 million readers a year and I have a great deal of your material archived on the Mormon Curtain:

http://mormoncurtain.com/topic_simonsoutherton.html

You can always post your material here, or on the Ex-Mormon Forums http://www.exmormonforums.com - where you won't be censored. You can also email articles directly to me for placement on the MC.

Thanks for all you do -

Cheers,

[_Shulem]

I also have a long history with Susan I/S. Susan doesn't like other boards or blogs and she adds keywords to her post banlist all the time. Mormoncurtain or Ex Mormon Forums are forbidden links.

I don't have it online anymore but there was a time when Susan threatened me with litigation if I didn't take the material on the MC down. She claimed all of the material posted by everyone on RFM was copyrighted by her and Eric. I challenged her copyright claims - she then stated that RFM had two attorneys who were demanding I take it down. I asked for their names, she refused to give them up.

Finally, in the end, there were no attorneys, it was just her being pissy. She is paranoid and she is an outright liar. From what I've heard she is also a shut-in who never leaves her house.

Either way, she runs RFM the way she wants. I won't name names, but she protects certain posts on RFM with extreme prejudice. She will delete ANY post that goes against the RFM celebrities only feeding their huge egos. Susan is very jealous and believes that only RFM should be the center of Ex-Mormonism. This is why she outright bans linking to other sites.

Simon, my site reaches about 18 million readers a year and I have a great deal of your material archived on the Mormon Curtain:

http://mormoncurtain.com/topic_simonsoutherton.html

You can always post your material here, or on the Ex-Mormon Forums http://www.exmormonforums.com - where you won't be censored. You can also email articles directly to me for placement on the MC.

Thanks for all you do -

Cheers,

Makes me want to go join the board just to call her some names (such as bitch or slut) and then watch her ban me.

Paul O