DCP unveiled

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
_CaliforniaKid
_Emeritus
Posts: 4247
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:47 am

Re: DCP unveiled

Post by _CaliforniaKid »

Equality wrote:What is the point of the article anyway (quibbles about whether he smeared Darwin or mischaracterized Korihor as a Marxist aside)? That those who oppose the ruling religious class will be struck dumb and suffer an ignominious death for their impudence?

Social Darwinism hadn't been invented yet. How could Korihor have known?

(Seriously, that seems to be the point of the article.)
_Darth J
_Emeritus
Posts: 13392
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 12:16 am

Re: DCP unveiled

Post by _Darth J »

MrStakhanovite wrote:On the flip, Deseret News is a pablum factory written at the level of semi-literate 8th graders, so it’s not like Dan has high standards to meet.


:cool:
_Blixa
_Emeritus
Posts: 8381
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:45 pm

Re: DCP unveiled

Post by _Blixa »

CaliforniaKid wrote:
Equality wrote:What is the point of the article anyway (quibbles about whether he smeared Darwin or mischaracterized Korihor as a Marxist aside)? That those who oppose the ruling religious class will be struck dumb and suffer an ignominious death for their impudence?

Social Darwinism hadn't been invented yet. How could Korihor have known?

(Seriously, that seems to be the point of the article.)


Don't forget that Korihor is a pre-Freudian Freudian as well.

The article is an sophomoric smear of the classic thinkers of Modernism in an attempt to gloss one of the most problematic fables of the Book of Mormon.
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
_moksha
_Emeritus
Posts: 22508
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:42 pm

Re: DCP unveiled

Post by _moksha »

Laissez-faire capitalism is one thing, however. It's quite another to argue that, for the benefit of society, the weak, the sick and the poor should not be helped.

There's a scene from Charles Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" in which, having been invited to make a holiday donation for the poor, Ebenezer Scrooge cites the prisons and public workhouses and declares that "Those who are badly off must go there." But, objects another man, "Many would rather die than go there." To which Scrooge coldly replies that, "If they would rather die, then let them do it and decrease the surplus population."

Probably not Scrooge's finest hour.


I'm happy to see Dr. Peterson take aim at Tea Party ideas and shoot between the horns.
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
_Dr. Shades
_Emeritus
Posts: 14117
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:07 pm

Re: DCP unveiled

Post by _Dr. Shades »

Equality wrote:What is the point of the article anyway (quibbles about whether he smeared Darwin or mischaracterized Korihor as a Marxist aside)? That those who oppose the ruling religious class will be struck dumb and suffer an ignominious death for their impudence?

My guess is that the point of the article is M. Gerald Bradford = Korihor.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

--Louis Midgley
_MCB
_Emeritus
Posts: 4078
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:14 pm

Re: DCP unveiled

Post by _MCB »

Dr. Shades wrote:My guess is that the point of the article is M. Gerald Bradford = Korihor.

If Walmart. Shakespeare was the prototype for Korihor, anyone should be proud to be compared with such a character.
Huckelberry said:
I see the order and harmony to be the very image of God which smiles upon us each morning as we awake.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/a ... cc_toc.htm
_angsty
_Emeritus
Posts: 406
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:27 am

Re: DCP unveiled

Post by _angsty »

There's just so much to say about this. I suppose he knows his audience, and name-dropping big thinkers they probably haven't studied in depth, while hinting at some vague and oversimplified construal of their ideas out of context may be exactly what they go for.
_Uther
_Emeritus
Posts: 444
Joined: Fri May 11, 2012 9:57 am

Re: DCP unveiled

Post by _Uther »

When I read the Deseret News article, I read it in the light that the man writing this is going through a lot of emotions, and I was interested in what kinds of emotions.
Maby its just me, but I get the feeling he is trying to adress someone in the end of his article..

"made his living by means of his "great swelling words"..
"cast out, and went about from house to house begging for his food"..
"strikingly appropriate end for a man"..
"the end of him who perverteth the ways of the Lord"..
" the devil will not support his children at the last day, but doth speedily drag them down to hell"..

Anger management program maby?
About Joseph Smith.. How do you think his persona was influenced by being the storyteller since childhood? Mastering the art of going pale, changing his voice, and mesmerizing his audience.. How do you think he was influenced by keeping secrets and lying for his wife and the church members for decades?
Post Reply