Cool. So the apostles and prophets were mistaken as to the doctrine for 148 years. Good to know that.
Doesn't seem to be the case. Besides, you guys apparently don't know what racism is so there really is no hope for intellectual honesty from your quarter.
bcspace wrote:So are saying that in addition to stating the suspect is black, it's also wrong to state the suspect is black and is wearing a blue shirt?
Again, what a stupid response. That is one of the worst analogies I have ever heard.
Saying an entire people is cursed with dark skin because of their wickedness is not the same as saying someone is wearing a blue shirt. Only a conditioned idiot would make such an analogy.
You seem to be operating under the delusion that, because something makes sense to you, it must be a good argument.
Bcspace has a reputation of saying black is white and white is black. It's usually this issue or the what is doctrine issue. I just tend to ignore him most of the time, although you are right that he hurts the church's image where he posts.
bcspace wrote:Doesn't seem to be the case. Besides, you guys apparently don't know what racism is so there really is no hope for intellectual honesty from your quarter.
Here's how this goes:
Porter: Saying that people are cursed with dark skin because of their wickedness is racist. bcspace: Not if there's no specific mention of what kind of wickedness. Bob:It's pretty clear to everyone else that nonspecific statements of wickedness directed toward an entire people are indeed racist. bcspace: Yellow journalism! Intellectual dishonesty!
Do you ever get tired of spewing BS all the time?
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
I really admire bcspace's determination never to admit defeat whatever the odds. It reminds me of Britain in 1940:
Unfortunately, in bcspace's case Operation Sealion has already taken place successfully, but he hasn't noticed.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Chap wrote:Unfortunately, in bcspace's case Operation Sealion has already taken place successfully, but he hasn't noticed.
You're giving him too much credit. The RAF actually had weapons.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
I'm laughing my a** off when he said "you guys apparently don't know what racism is"
bcspace thinks the way to defend the church and attract investigators is to quote a racist publication. Just let that sink in for a moment.
Who the hell are they baptizing in his stake?
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
bcspace wrote:An old canard. Skin color is not related to any particular behavior or defect in the book. Hence, no racism. On the other hand, what PP's logic is saying is that dark skinned people are never wicked or lazy; speaking to "noble savage" illusions which are shared by all leftists.
This is still published by LDS Inc.
Therefore according to your definition, the contents thereof are doctrine.
Yep, still official doctrine position.
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liz3564 wrote:If we are teaching our children that dark skin is a curse from God, then what is that child supposed to think about their peers who have different colored skin?
Are we not all supposed to be special to God? Our uniqueness should be taught to our children as a blessing, not a curse.
Liz, do you still belong to and contribute to this church that holds steadfast to it's racist teachings?
H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level." ~ Ernest Becker "Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death." ~ Simone de Beauvoir
liz3564 wrote:If we are teaching our children that dark skin is a curse from God, then what is that child supposed to think about their peers who have different colored skin?
Are we not all supposed to be special to God? Our uniqueness should be taught to our children as a blessing, not a curse.
Liz, do you still belong to and contribute to this church that holds steadfast to it's racist teachings?
H.
There was a different thread a while ago where I made the point that anyone still paying tithing was actually funding the Church's homophobic activism. Didn't go down well.
But I guess if one is paying tithing then one is funding the racist teachings of the Church.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
