Is the LDS Church a Totalitarian Regime?

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_ludwigm
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Re: Is the LDS Church a Totalitarian Regime?

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What countries or places do you have supposed votes where the proposition is always passed with 99.99 percent of the vote?

The communist/socialist countries, in the 50s, 60s, 70s...

I know, I lived here, in Hungary.
I've made parallels in my comments, many times. Nobody believed.

To understand that environment, one have to live in. Tourists, reporters - who leave after a few days - can not grab it.

It was not 99.99%. It was between 99.96 and 99.98. The remaining 0.02-0.04% were not against, they were invalid. There were no place on the paper to vote against. One should have draw a dick in the middle, to make it a bad voting paper. I am not joking, that was the routine. (I took part in Counting Committee...)

Sometimes - rarely - the rate was under 99.95%. That was the message to the leadership: that man should be shuffled out of sight. Next year, that man became ambassador in Togo.
Or in Burkina Faso. You know, that name is a composite of local languages and is roughly translated as "the land of incorruptible men."

Our highest leaders were never pensioned. There were two way out for them. The coffin or - sometimes - the trapdoor.

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How could have we survived? With jokes...
Radio Yerevan:
- The Armenian Radio was asked: "Is it true that in Moscow, Mercedes cars are being given to citizens?"
- The Armenian Radio answers: "Yes, but it is not Moscow but Leningrad, not Mercedes but Ladas, and not given to but stolen from." (This was even funnier in the Hungarian version where the main pun was the similarity of the words osztogatnak "they give them away" and fosztogatnak "they rob them".)

or

Q: Why some people say that Hungarians love the Russians and hate the Americans?
A: Because Russians helped Hungarians to get rid of one totalitarian rule, but Americans don't help to get rid of the other.

Q: Is it possible to build socialism in Switzerland?
A: It's possible, but why? Did Switzerland really do something wrong to you?
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Re: Is the LDS Church a Totalitarian Regime?

Post by _LDSToronto »

consiglieri wrote:
just me wrote:My FIL opposed once. He knew the guy was breaking a commandment or two. They took him into the office and he explained why and they asked him to sustain him.


As long as my mind is being opened to the issue, where did the idea come from that the only legitimate reason for voting against somebody is commandment-breaking?

Aren't there other, and more legitimate, reasons to think somebody might not be the keenest bishop in the world?

All the Best!

--Consiglieri


The only time I've seen a vote of dissent came when a new bishop was called in a ward that had a large Korean population. One of the counselors called was Korean, and a Korean man voted against him.

The following week was F&T, and the man who had dissented told everyone that he had dissented because he felt the Korean counselor was not a good representative of the Korean community.

Toronto wards are never boring.

H.
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