Cicero wrote:I agree. People never cease to surprise me. I have found it interesting that some of the more ardent critics on this board are former apologists. I guess switching sides does not mean switching personalities . . .
Indeed.
When I was a bush league online LDS apologist, I tried to be fair, to be rational, and to have a sense of humor.
Some people claim that I have consistently failed at all of these things.
At least I consistently claim that I am trying.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Cicero wrote:I agree. People never cease to surprise me. I have found it interesting that some of the more ardent critics on this board are former apologists. I guess switching sides does not mean switching personalities . . .
Indeed.
When I was a bush league online LDS apologist, I tried to be fair, to be rational, and to have a sense of humor.
Some people claim that I have consistently failed at all of these things.
At least I consistently claim that I am trying.
I don't know, Kish. I think you're pretty awesome!
Darth J wrote:So, Ludd, further to your seeking information from the board:
How is it that you have been able to familiarize yourself with Doctor Scratch's posting history, but not with the subject matter that an intermediary has asked you to look into on behalf of some unknown person at either BYU or Church headquarters? And how is it that you are familiar with Kishkumen posting under two different screen names, one of which he has barely used in over a year?
Ludd wrote: Look, I may be wrong about thinking you and Doctor Scratch are the same person. It's just what I thought based on your posts. If I'm mistaken, I apologize. But I'm certainly not involved in "apologetic warfare and smearing." I don't understand what the big deal is either way. So what if you post under two different handles? I love Doctor Scratch's posts. They're great. He's one of the great critics on all the Mormon boards. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24337&p=598445#p598445
How could you have "always" thought Kishkumen and Doctor Scratch are the same person when don't know much about the board?
Ludd wrote: How do you know?
I've always thought Doctor Scratch and Kishkumen are the same person. In fact, I'm pretty certain of it. But it doesn't surprise me that Kishkumen is denying it to high heaven.
Ludd wrote:Huh? I'm not sure what you're reading, but their tone, attitude, and vocabulary are VERY much alike. That's why I always thought they were the same person. And what's really hilarious is that "Trevor" thought so too and made posts saying as much. Did you read the 2009 thread that Ray linked to? You need to. It's all so obvious. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24337&p=598600#p598600
How is it that you have gone through threads from years ago on this board, but you aren't familiar enough with it to figure out what people have said about Schryer and Hamblin and Peterson?
Ludd wrote: Isn't that thread an amazing bit of sock puppetry gone wild?
I'll bet Trevor/Kishkumen/Mister Scratch/Doctor Scratch/?????? never thought anyone would be reading that thread again after all these years.
From what I can figure, Mister Scratch left the board for some reason. Then "Kishkumen" appears, but everyone fingers him immediately as Mister Scratch's sock puppet. The funniest part is that "Trevor" is among those who recognize that "Kishkumen" is "Mister Scratch's" sock puppet, and he joins in with teh crowd that is giving "Kishkumen" such a hard time. Then "Kishkumen" and "Trevor" carry on a long conversation with each other. You especailly gotta love how Kishkumen calls Trevor "Little Ms. Trevor". Nice touch, don't you think?
Then Droopy drops by and asks "Kishkumen," point blank: "Scratch, is this sockpuppet thing really necessary. I mean, actually speaking of Scratch as if he weren't you? And the point is?"
"Kishkumen" then replies (in the last post on the thread): "To have some fun, lad. That's what it's all about."
So Kishkumen outright admits to Droopy that he is Scratch's sock puppet. "To have some fun, lad. That's what it's all about."
Problem is that at some point "Trevor" decided that he would be "Kishkumen". I don't know when that happened and when Trevor acknowledged the fact that he was "Kishkumen". But it's obvious that Trevor/Kishkumen/Mister Scratch/Doctor Scratch/?????? lost track of what his various sock puppets had said. Man, I hate it when that happens. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24337&p=598560#p598560
How can Blixa be one of your favorite posters, while you are so utterly unfamiliar with the board that you can't figure out how to find what people have said about certain Mormon apologists?
Ludd wrote:
I see ScratchKumen has called in some reinforcements.
Sorry Blixa. You're one of my favorite posters here. But you're wrong on this one. It's down right obvious as hell that Kishkumen and Doctor Scratch have been the same person. Did you check out the thread Ray linked to earlier? I mean how much more obvious do you want it to be?
I still don't understand why this is a big deal to Kishkumen. Is this like the first time a sock puppet has been unmasked on this board? Really? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24337&p=598543#p598543
And you seem to have a vaguely familiar idea that nobody can really know anything for sure. I just can't quite put my finger on it......
Ludd wrote: Just as I thought. You don't know anything for certain.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
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