A Million Mormons Go Missing--Link

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In 1997 then Prophet, Gordon B Hinckley said...

In the nation of Brazil alone there will be approximately 50,000 people join the Church this year. That is the equivalent of 16 or 17 new stakes in just 12 months. The São Paulo Temple cannot accommodate all who wish to come. We are building three new temples in that nation and will yet have to build others.

These are strong and wonderful Latter-day Saints in whose hearts beat the same testimonies of Jesus and this work as beat in yours.

We must construct meetinghouses by the score to accommodate the needs of these ever-increasing numbers.


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In 1997 then Prophet, Gordon B Hinckley said...

In the nation of Brazil alone there will be approximately 50,000 people join the Church this year. That is the equivalent of 16 or 17 new stakes in just 12 months. The São Paulo Temple cannot accommodate all who wish to come. We are building three new temples in that nation and will yet have to build others.

These are strong and wonderful Latter-day Saints in whose hearts beat the same testimonies of Jesus and this work as beat in yours.

We must construct meetinghouses by the score to accommodate the needs of these ever-increasing numbers.


Gordon B. Hinkley also said this about Mormons becoming Gods when they die.


I don't know that we teach it. I don't know that we emphasize it. I haven't heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don't know. I don't know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I don't know a lot about it and I don't know that others know a lot about it.
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According to the latest census, undertaken in 2010, the population of Brazil is 190,732,694 people.


What proportion of 191 million is 250,000?
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Drifting wrote:So...activity in Brazil is running at circa 25%....


almost certainly less than 25%.

you have to also subtract all the ones who are inactive but continue to self-identify as Mormon.
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so Mormon share of the total Brazilian population works out to....

0.11775% in 2000
0.11708% in 2010

(just to be clear those are fractions of one percent, not fractions of 100 percent)
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Drifting wrote:
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Manaus Brazil Temple: Cultural celebration - unity among Latter-day Saints in Manaus

Manaus Brazil Temple 'A place of much peace and beauty'

MANAUS, BRAZIL

The faith and commitment of Latter-day Saints living here can be likened to the Amazon River, said President Dieter F. Uchtdorf. Both flow deep and strong.

President Uchtdorf, second counselor in the First Presidency, dedicated the Manaus Brazil Temple on June 10.

The temple is the Church's 138th worldwide and sixth in Brazil — where there are more than 1 million members.


Six temples in a country with a mere 250,000 believers...somebody got some 'splainin to do....



Wow. Then Subtract from 250,000 self identified Mormons then number of them that are actually active and hold temple recommends. From my bishopric days only about 30% of our ward had their endowments and only about 25% had current recommends. That means that for 6 temples you might have around 65,000-70,000 current recommned holders. Then figure out how many of them go only a couple of times a year or not at all because of cost and distance to travel. Them's some empy temples...
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son of Ishmael wrote:Them's some empy temples...


I have lived in several different regions of the country over the past 10 years, and in each one I have heard local church leaders complain about empty temples (to guilt us into going).
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Cicero wrote:I have lived in several different regions of the country over the past 10 years, and in each one I have heard local church leaders complain about empty temples (to guilt us into going).


It's the same pattern: they build a temple and for about 3 months everyone is excited and goes regularly. Then the novelty wears off and the places are deserted. Temples aren't meant to be used so much as they are visible symbols of presence and permanence, even if they are just illusions.
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Cicero wrote:
sock puppet wrote:I am surprised LDS Inc doesn't boast a membership number that includes all the dead for whom baptisms have been done.


Including recycled names too right?

It depends on how many times they get to vote in Illinois elections.
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It depends on how many times they get to vote in Illinois elections.


And how many dead dogs and illegal aliens there are who vote for Obama.
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